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Blog Entry# 2034126
Posted: Oct 24 2016 (08:43)

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Entry# 2034126   News Entry# 283868         Tags   Past Edits
Calcutta-based dance teacher Swadesh Kumar and his friends (below) are all prepared to enjoy the ride as Dhanbad-Howrah Double Decker Chhath Puja Special (02386) chugs out...

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what is the estimated loss for runin a train with 50 passengers whose capactiy is 638
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(1) Gatiman's speciality is it being a super premium train(much better than Shatabdi). Its fares are higher than Shatabdi due to much superior on board facilities/food and train host/hostess. AC DD is a higher volume and inferior travel than normal ACC and its fares should have been kept a bit lower than ACC. So ACDD coaches in Gatiman shall go against its super luxury status. (I wonder what would be difference between the Gatiman & proposed Tejas & Shatabdi of course)
(2) Mumbai-Pune is excellent destination for ACDD but existing rail route is longer than Mum-Pune express way route, it is full of curves and steep gradients since it was planned and constructed about 150 years ago. A cumulative effect is much
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higher journey time than buses/ cars. So major traffic is on the Mum-Pune expressway
Today a straight rail track without curves and gradients but with longer tunnel route & without any speed restrictions/ banking loco is possible. Such track shall have higher initial cost but the recurring saving of fuel cost, journey time, operation/maintenance cost shall make it a better option.
I personally wish that instead of extra track from Kalyan-Pune, IR should construct straighter route from LTT to Pune via thane creek which may be any where around 120-140km long. This may run parallel to existing tracks for some length (LTT-Vashi, and for some distance from Pune along Pune-Karjat line) and run 160kmph+ full ac trains (60-90 minute journey for non stop/with stops journey) and 130kmph non ac LHB trains (75-105 minute journey) in large numbers. Passenger response to these "desi bullet trains" shall give a good indication whether bullet trains for about 500km journey shall be be successful in India or not?

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Bad selection of the route is the biggest reason. It was known to Railways the no one will travel in this and again it would be a flop still the train was launched. Why don't they just transfer the rake to some other zone where an Intelligent use of that could be done.
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DQisthebest
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I agree that Gatimaan is super luxurious train. But to increase the tourism in Agra, a normal AC Superfast train could serve the purpose. AC DD can in fact make 2 rounds to Agra in a day. The journey time of 2 hrs could also not be a issue for those uncomfortable seats of DD.
Your second point of a new track between Pune and Mumbai. This is apart from a costly affair, not a immediate solution. They can attract passengers on this route by offering a ticket price lower than Volvo bus and lesser journey time by traveling via Panvel Vashi to Kurla and Dadar with halts at Panvel and Vashi. AC DD via Vashi sounds odd but worth giving
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DQisthebest
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I disagree to the point that IR knew no one will travel in this train and still it was launched. They never had idea that DD will be a big flop show. It is only that train concepts are introduced without prior study.
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