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Apr 22 2011 (13:53)   16515/Yesvantpur - Karwar Express [via Arsikere]

Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Entry# 144282            Tags   Past Edits
Mangalore - Bangalore train will not enter Mangalore Central
Mangalore Today News Network
Mangalore, April 20, 2011: Preparations are on to extend the Mangalore – Bangalore day train to Karwar, but the train will not longer arrive at Mangalore Central Station, Attavar. Instead, it will arrive into Junction Station at Kankanady, before leaving for Karwar and will take the same route back to Bangalore.
response to demands for the extension of the Mangalore – Bangalore night train to Karwar, Union Railway Minister Mamatha Bannerji had announced during the last railway budget that the day train will be extended.
Accordingly, the train will arrive into Kankanady Station and leave from there, which means that the Central Station will no longer see this train. Several technical factors such as non-availability of tracks are responsible for this move. Only three railway tracks lead into the Central Station and they are used by other trains after 10:00 a.m., owing to which the extended train cannot use these tracks. The only solution to this problem seems to be laying additional tracks, but this means years of land acquisition, project study, sanctioning funds, calling for tender, construction, and so on.
Sources say that orders from higher authorities specifically prevent trains to be allowed into Central Station from 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m., sealing the fate of the extended train forever. Moreover, it will take 40 minutes for the extended train to chug into Central Station and leave, and the railway officials want to save this time.
Previously, the extension of this train was delayed owing to lack of terminus and shunting facility to return the train from Karwar. The train might be extended to Margao because of this problem.
Meanwhile, railway users associations have accused the elected representatives of failure to perform their duties. Some of them want the train to be converted into a superfast, which can leave Karwar at 4:00 a.m. and reach Bangalore at 7:00 p.m. People would not have complained if the station at Kankanady was in good shape, but the place lacks bus facility and auto drivers charge exorbitantly. Moreover, the roads connecting the Junction Station are in a terrible condition.
The extended service will run on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. It will depart from Karwar at 5:30 a.m. and arrive at Junction Station at 10:55 a.m., after which its engine will be changed before it leaves for Yeshwantpur at 11:15 a.m. The train is scheduled to arrive at Yeshwantpur at 10:45 p.m.
The train will start its return journey from Yeshwantpur on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. It will depart from Yeshwantpur at 7:30 a.m. and will arrive into Junction Station at 5:45 p.m. and will depart from Junction Station at 6:05 p.m. and arrive at Karwar at 11:00 p.m.

Apr 22 2011 (14:32)
Manthal Krishnan*^~   2468 blog posts   312 correct pred (72% accurate)
Re# 144282-1            Tags   Past Edits
Railway is planning to develop Mangalore Junction in the future and slowly phase out the Mangalore Central station.
Regarding the Junction station, first priority should be given to develope the road connecting the staion with Highway.

Apr 22 2011 (14:35)
PKV*^~   19087 blog posts   72 correct pred (80% accurate)
Re# 144282-2            Tags   Past Edits
Krishnan, will it not be a good idea to use Mangalore Central for all trains originating from / terminating at Mangalore and Mangalore Junction (formerly Kankanadi) for trains passing thro Mangalore.

Apr 22 2011 (14:52)
Manthal Krishnan*^~   2468 blog posts   312 correct pred (72% accurate)
Re# 144282-3            Tags   Past Edits
Sir.........yes that is good for all passengers but IR is thinking just opposite. This news i read in an article last year that IR is planning to develope Kankanady in future, stating that Central has no space for further developement.
Apr 22 2011 (14:06)   16515/Yesvantpur - Karwar Express [via Arsikere]

Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Entry# 144300            Tags   Past Edits
Mangalore: A Dream Too Far - Karwar Train Won't Enter Central Station!
Mangalore, Apr 20 (7-50 am): If the people of this region celebrated the announcement of the extension of the daytime train from Bangalore to Mangalore up to Karwar, they are in for a shock.
Preparations are on for the new extended service. But the train will not chug into the Mangalore Central station at Attavar end. It will arrive at Mangalore Junction (formerly Kankanady) and leave direct for Karwar and ply on the same route on its way back.
the people of the region have been agitating for the extension of the night train up to Karwar for many years, union railway minister Mamta Bannerji had announced in her last budget that the day train would be extended.
Accordingly, ground work is being done for the extension. According to the plan and time-table, the train will arrive at the Junction station and leave from there on either way. The Central station will not see this train any more.
Technical reasons have been proffered for this move. Non-availability of tracks - an easy pretext any part of the day or night - is the main problem, say the officials. There are only three tracks leading to the Central railway station. After 10 am, it is being used by some train or other, which leaves no scope for any other train to operate.
What is the way out? Laying out additional tracks, maybe. But that is going to be another story. Land acquisition, project study, sanction, tender, construction and so on may entail another ten years.
It is reliably learnt that there are orders from 'above' - where else, but Palghat division - that no more trains be allowed into the Central station tracks between 10 am and 3 pm. That seals the fate.
Besides, the process of moving the train into the Central and chugging it back would take a minimum of 40 minutes. The officials are keen on cutting down the time factor.
As already reported, earlier, the extension up to Karwar was being delayed with the excuse that there was no terminus and shunting facility for return train in Karwar. For this reason, say railway sources, that the same train may be extended from Karwar further up to Margao.
Railway-users' associations are furious. Some say that our elected representatives at the union level are not doing their job properly. A few others want the train to be converted into a superfast service, leaving Karwar at 4 am and reaching Bangalore at 7 pm.
This would give enough breathing space to enter Central station here and leave immediately. The Kanara Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI) feels that it is proof to the contempt the railway authorities have for the people of the region.
There would not have been many complaints if the Junction (Kankanady) station had proper infrastructure. The place is in total neglect. The connecting roads are in bad shape. Bus facility is not convenient. About the auto drivers charging high fare, the less said the better.
The city residents will have a tough time carting their bag and baggage from homes to the Junction station. Besides, If the train reaches Yeshwantpur at that part of the night, the plight of passengers in getting transport like autos and buses can very well be imagined.
According to the new time-table, the following will be the timings, with all 14 compartments running between the two points.
Operating days - Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays
Departure from Karwar 5-30 am
Arrival at Mangalore Junction 10-55 am
Change of engine and departure for Yeshwantpur 11-15 am
Arrival at Yeshwantpur 10-45 pm
Return journey - Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays
Departure from Yeshwantpur 7-30 am
Arrival at Mangalore Junction 5-45 pm
Departure 6-05 pm
Arrival at Karwar 11 pm
No one knows in what way the new extended service is going to benefit a majority of the passengers.
Apr 22 2011 (13:36)   16515/Yesvantpur - Karwar Express [via Arsikere]

Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Entry# 144264            Tags   Past Edits
Bangalore - Mangalore Day Train has No Stop at Mangalore Central!
Daijiworld Media Network – Mangalore (SP)
Courtesy : Udayavani Daily
Mangalore, Apr 20: Preparations are on for extending the day train between Bangalore and the city to Karwar. This has been a long-pending demand of the people residing in the coast. In addition to people from Udupi, railway passengers from Kundapur, Bhatkal etc,
also had brought pressure on the people’s representatives to provide them direct train link to the state’s headquarters.
The union railway minister had given in to the pressures and agitations, and announced extension of Mangalore-Yeshwanthpur train to Karwar in the recent budget. Count down has begun for the extension of the train, and revised time table is being worked out. In a few days, the train will run between Bangalore and Karwar. As per the new time schedule, the train will leave Karwar at 5.30 am, reach Mangalore Junction (Kankanady) station at 10.55 am, and reach Yeshwantpur at 10.45 pm. On Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays, the train will begin its journey from Karwar, whereas on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, it will begin its journey from Yeshwanthpur at 7.30 am to reach the city at 5.45 pm and reach Karwar at 11 pm.
The revised timings and route have come in as a bolt from the blue for the travellers from the city. At present, this train begins its journey from Mangalore Central station at 8.40 am, and reach Bangalore at 7.30 pm. This timing is convenient for the people to begin their onward journeys, and reach their destinations in Bangalore by catching buses, autos or taxis from the railway station there. But, they will find it difficult to catch buses and other modes of transport after reaching Bangalore at 10.45 pm once the extension is given effect to, or else they will have to shell out double the money by way of auto fare. Another disadvantage of the revised time table is that the train will skip Mangalore Central railway station. It will touch Kankanady on the outskirts of the city, and move to Karwar directly from there. This railway station lacks proper connectivity, and people will have to spend heavily to reach this station and catch the train from there.
Reportedly, lack of additional tracks in Mangalore Central station has forced the Railway Board to think of skipping that station. Additionally, the fact that only three tracks are located in this station, and that they are always occupied by one train or the other between mornings and afternoon sessions, has rendered it impossible to route any trains to this station. Another reason put forth by the railway officials for deciding to run the train via Kankanady station is the need to earmark around 45 minutes more to reach the central railway station and go back to Kankanady, which will again extend the time the train reaches Bangalore.
The railway department is also considering the possibility of extending the train to Madgaon instead of Karwar because of lack of maintenance facilities in Karwar. The train will halt at Kankanady, Udupi, Byndoor, Bhatkal, Gokarn and Kumta stations once the train extension comes into force. But, skipping of Mangalore Central station will be a major handicap of this train, as far as commuters from the city and other places are concerned, particularly so because of poor bus connectivity to this railway station, and exorbitant charges demanded by auto rickshaws and taxis for ferrying people there.
Mar 10 2011 (09:10)   16515/Yesvantpur - Karwar Express [via Arsikere]

Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Entry# 121933            Tags   Past Edits
What do you guys think should be the apt revised timings of this train to & fro once extended to Karwar ?
As of now the train leaves MAQ at 8:40 AM so if the current timings are un altered then the train should start from Karwar around 3:00 AM approx. so that it can reach MAQ arnd this time and continue its journey to Bangalore.. what say guys ?

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Mar 24 2011 (23:17)
Guest: 455c8ad6   show all posts
Re# 121933-27            Tags   Past Edits
@Hari prasad: Re# 121933-26
Hari: MAJN was actually Kankannadi (KNKD) . This is actually a very important place for mangalore and i also see most of the passengers alighting here. Further to speed up the travel time.. I dont think Sakleshpur to Subramanya Rd can be increased but yes for sure between YPR & Sakleshpur can be increased.

Mar 24 2011 (23:20)
BMTIR*^~   21275 blog posts   7423 correct pred (63% accurate)
Re# 121933-28            Tags   Past Edits
@guest: Re# 121933-27
YPR-HSN can be speeded up easily by an hour- train takes around 45-50 minutes to TK and another hour to ASK-around 30 minutes spent at ASK for crossing and engine change which can be reduced. then another 40 minutes to HSN-5 hrs is too long for the strech 4 hrs is sufficient time-that itself will give about 20-25 minutes slack

Mar 28 2011 (09:55)
Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Re# 121933-29            Tags   Past Edits
@guest: Re# 121933-27
I agree, the station underwent name change.. how ever my concern is its quite far from the city.

Mar 28 2011 (09:58)
Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Re# 121933-30            Tags   Past Edits
@Siddharth*: Re# 121933-28
Thats right speed of the train needs to be revisited and planned accordingly.
The worst part of this train is while returning to Bangalore the train stops at almost every station..really frustrating.

Mar 28 2011 (10:06)
Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Re# 121933-31            Tags   Past Edits
@guest: Re# 121933-22
my concern is its quite far from the city and will cause inconvenience to public who wanna go to central'
Mar 24 2011 (20:59)   16517/KSR Bengaluru City - Kannur Express [via Mysuru]

Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Entry# 129014            Tags   Past Edits
There is also a Loco reversal at MAQ

Mar 24 2011 (21:14)
BMTIR*^~   21275 blog posts   7423 correct pred (63% accurate)
Re# 129014-1            Tags   Past Edits
Has loco reversal at MAQ, HSN and MYS-updated same in coach composition-

Mar 28 2011 (09:58)
Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Re# 129014-2            Tags   Past Edits

Thank you S!d :)
Mar 21 2011 (07:34)   16515/Yesvantpur - Karwar Express [via Arsikere]

Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Entry# 127131            Tags   Past Edits
M’lore-Yeshwanthpur daily train likely soon
The Mangalore-Yeshwanthpur tri-weekly express day train service could become a daily service soon. That, however, can happen if railway ministry approves the proposal to increase frequency of the service and the railway board allots new coaches.
The South Western Railways’ divisional railway manager B B Verma said, “The shortage of coaches is preventing us from running the train on a daily basis.” He said the ‘daily train’ proposal on the route was with the railway ministry.
Senior railway officials, including South Western Railways’ general manager Kuldeep Chaturvedi had arrived in a special train to inspect facilities at Donigal, Edakumeri and Arebetta railway stations.
They also visited the Subramanya railway station.
referr to Bangalore mirror 21-03-2011
Feb 25 2011 (16:41)   16515/Yesvantpur - Karwar Express [via Arsikere]

Guest: 3e9111f0   show all posts
Entry# 116434            Tags   Past Edits
mamata has said that she will extend this train to karwar. I dont see the point. They should extend 16517 to karwar. Its sad that the railways have absolutely no sense of making money. They should run another night train to mangalore from bangalore via arsikere(and not mysore) and extend that to karwar so that one can reach karwar by 10 am or so

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Mar 03 2011 (10:04)
Hari prasad   18 blog posts
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Yes extending the Day train makes no sense at all.. it makes the journey too long all day and uncomfortable.Railways have no sense at all.It already takes 11 hrs to reach Mangalore ..and Konkan route being a single line will take another 6 hrs to reach Karwara. More over there are many pilgrim places like udupi, Mookambika, Murdeshwar , Gokarna, idgunji for which people will like to reach in the morning the train will go to these places late in the evening not user frndly.
16527/16528 is another Train between Yesv- Kannur Via Coimbatore this train reaches Kannur faster than the Yes-Mys-kannur .. so If people wanna go to Kannur they will surely go in
the first train.. so they must ideally divert the second train to Karwara .. why 2 trains to Kannur I dont understand .When I went to Mangalore via Mysore-Kannur train..all passengers got down at MAQ there was hardly anyone left in the train to go to Kannur.

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Mar 03 2011 (12:05)
Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Re# 116434-5            Tags   Past Edits

Thanks 4 d response..they need to re-think abt extending the night train and leave the day train un-affected .If they wanna generate revenues Night train is what needs to be extnd , atleast they can get revenue by charging sleeper (Express) fares.Extending the day train might help the local commuters of Coastal Karnataka and over there the ticket fares will become further cheap similar to MAQ-Verna passenger. This will further create a loss I feel.
Feb 26 2011 (11:04)   16515/Yesvantpur - Karwar Express [via Arsikere]

anilkowshik   44 blog posts
Entry# 116797            Tags   Past Edits
Rail Budget 2011 promises extension of Bangalore Mangalore Day(tri-weekly) Express/6515⇒16515 train to Karwar. Welcome news for the towns along the coastal Karnataka providing much needed connectivity to the state capital Bangalore. Hope the train will stop at major stations along the extended route and runs daily in due course.
Route of the proposed new train namely Vasco-Vailankani Weekly express is not mentioned in the budget. Better if it takes the route via Konkan Railway through Mangalore for the benefit of the towns of coastal Karnataka. Incidentally Vailankani has no rail line/station, the nearest station is Nagapattinam (about 10km) on the Nagore-Thanjavur route. Possibly 'Vailankanni'- being a well known shrine close-by is the part of the train name.

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Feb 27 2011 (08:03)
Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Re# 116797-6            Tags   Past Edits

According to me the Yesvantpur - Mysore-kannur train should have been diverted to Karwar instead of Kannur as there are so may trains between Mang Cntrl and Kannur.
Extending the day train is not a good idea, passengers will feel very tiring sitting all day long if they wanna travel to coastal Karnataka from Bangalore.

Feb 27 2011 (08:17)
Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Re# 116797-8            Tags   Past Edits
As a suggestion I would prefer if this train runs from Vasco to mangalore and then travel via Bantwal, subramanya, sakleshpur , hassan, yesvantpur , salem, erode, trichy and then Velankanni .
In this way it will add one more train to Mangalore and coastal Karnataka. and this train should pass on the bangalore- mangalore route on Sundays as there is no day train on Sunday.
There are so many trains between Mangalore to Shorannur already.

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Feb 28 2011 (00:57)
Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Re# 116797-10            Tags   Past Edits
Thanks for the reply.. however I would like to mention that there are so many trains that pass through the Braganza Ghats which is similar to this route which also incurs high cost ...adding one more train to this route shouldn't really matter a lot to the Railways in terms of cost and of course its there duty to take safe precautions with environmental hazards due to Western ghats. and its really foolish that the day train is not operational on Sundays where in they can make good business outta it :(

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Feb 19 2011 (08:35)   11301/Udyan Express

Hari prasad   18 blog posts
Entry# 113145            Tags   Past Edits
Can some one tell me at which Station the bankers are attached to this train & which station its removed while traveling to Mumbai and vice versa..thanks
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