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What is meant by Lower Berth Quota and who is eligible to avail it?  
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Jul 27 2011 (3:30AM)
Ticket Reservation Quotas

Entry# 14     
Kishor*^~
What is meant by Lower Berth Quota and who is eligible to avail it?

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Mar 13 2012 (12:09PM)
Blog Post# 371655-0     
PKV*^~   Added by: Tejas*^~  Mar 13 2012 (3:47PM)
USEFUL INFORMATION
* Lower berth quota(SS quota) is allotted only to the single lady passenger of age 45 and above travelling alone or senior citizen passenger travelling alone.
So, more than 1 ticket cannot be booked AT A TIME in LOWER BERTH QUOTA, even if all the passengers are severally and jointly eligible for the same.

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Dec 30 2011 (9:42AM)
Blog Post# 315158-15     
Pp*^~   Added by: Pp*^~  Dec 30 2011 (9:47AM)
click here says:
Exclusive Accommodation for Ladies, Sr. Citizen and Pregnant Women
i.An accommodation of six berths in sleeper class of all the trains is earmarked for exclusive use of lady passengers.
ii.In addition to this a combined quota of 2 lower berths is earmarked in sleeper class, AC 3-Tier and AC 2-Tier classes for Sr. Citizens, Female passengers 45 years of age and
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above traveling alone and pregnant women in all trains.
iii.Pregnant women will be required to submit a certificate of pregnancy certified by one registered Medical Practitioner at the time of booking against the quota.

Dec 30 2011 (10:49AM)
Blog Post# 315158-22     
AKGarg*   Added by: Nazeer*^~  Dec 30 2011 (11:31AM)
For more clarification and info go read this circular.
Rgds
akg

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Jul 28 2011 (11:20PM)
Blog Post# 211758-0     
DB*^~   Added by: DB*^~  Jul 28 2011 (11:21PM)
Senior Citizen is just a concession applicable to male (60+)(40%) and female (58+)(50%). They can either travel single or in groups.
If they travel single, system would automatically place them in vacant LB Quota; i.e. they would be eligible for both LB+Concession at the same time. Else they would be placed in GNWL (When LB Quota runs full).
If any LB gets cancelled in the meantime, then it wont be released. The vacant quota will be released only during charting.
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is no guarentee of allotting the vacant LB's under this quota to the one who are actually eligible for it. Thus, if you are placed in GNWL, kindly apply for the same to the Station Master/Charting Officer through a letter.
Female(45+) Travelling alone, Pregnant women (May or may not travel alone), Handicapped people (May or may not travel alone) are also eligible for LB.
Note: Handicapped people are also eligible for concession.
Note: There in no concession in Tatkal, Yuva and Garib Rath.

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Jul 28 2011 (10:10PM)
Blog Post# 211738-0     
Dont run empty premium train   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 28 2011 (10:41PM)
who eligible for lower birth quota my uncle aged 62 and aunty 60 yr will they take benefit for the lower birth

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Jul 28 2011 (10:30PM)
Blog Post# 211738-7     
DB*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 28 2011 (10:41PM)

If you book them together they shall only receive the concession.
If you book them alone, they would be placed against LB Quota (Subject to availability) + they would receive the concession.

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Jul 28 2011 (10:31PM)
Blog Post# 211738-8     
BMTIR*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 28 2011 (10:42PM)
If availability is only in Lower ebrth quota to avail it there is no other go but to book for them seperately-but then chances are that they will get seperate coaches as lower berth quota can be availed by ladies above 45 years or male senior citizens who travel alone

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Jul 28 2011 (8:23PM)
Blog Post# 211705-0     
Nazeer*^~   Added by: Nazeer*^~  Jul 28 2011 (8:23PM)
Senior Citizen is just a concession applicable to male (60+)(40%) and female (58+)(50%). They can either travel single or in groups.
If they travel single, system would automatically place them in vacant LB Quota; i.e. they would be eligible for both LB+Concession at the same time. Else they would be placed in GNWL (When LB Quota runs full).
If any LB gets cancelled in the meantime, then it wont be released. The vacant quota will be released only during charting.
Female(45+)
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Travelling alone, Pregnant women (May or may not travel alone), Handicapped people (May or may not travel alone) are also eligible for LB.
Note: Handicapped people are also eligible for concession.

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Jul 28 2011 (11:01AM)
Blog Post# 211293-30     
Nazeer*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 28 2011 (8:43PM)
@Nazeer**: Re# 211293-29
((Online Booking of tickets under SS quota - Lower berth quota ))
..... This is for the benefit of bloggers and passengers who are eligible for this privilege quota but depriving for want of info ...........(power of single booking)
Additional seats (quota - of lower berths) are available under SS quota code.
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obtain ticket under SS code , the passenger has to satify following both the conditions.
a) Passenger is travelling alone. and
b) Age criterias - for females (above 45 yrs), for males (above 60 yrs)
Based on the details filled up on online booking page....
The system automatically considers any booking requisiton on the basis of 45+ female and 60+ male senior citizens travelling alone (single booking) for SS quota vacant berths.
In near future, a new specific tick mark Tab is expected to be introduced by IRCTC.
*** Note that ....There is no seperate tab provided for tick mark for SS quota.
**Obviously the age proof carrying for 45+ female passenger , during travelling is must to support her eligibility under this quota . The failure to produce age proof may entail fine to be imposed by TTE.
*** 60+ maleand 58+female passengers anyway comes under Senior citizen category for fare concession and age proof carrying must for them. In case 60+ male passenger has not tick marked for fare concession (available on demand) , he is still bound to produce age proof if he has obtained ticket under SS quota.
Courtesy : Kapadia ** /blog/post/28130

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Jul 09 2011 (1:36PM)
Blog Post# 201873-1     
✔KALINGAS✔*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 28 2011 (4:44AM)
@jaganboorla: Re# 201873-0
nothing just select the option while booking
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If talking about lower berth quota male should should be 60 plus and female 45 plus
Regards

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Jul 11 2011 (5:59PM)
Blog Post# 201873-3     
Naam me kya rakha hain*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
@jaganboorla: Re# 201873-2
A Lower berth Quota has to be provided in AC and Sleeper classes for senior citizen and women above the age of 45, travelling alone

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Jul 11 2011 (6:14PM)
Blog Post# 201873-7     
Naam me kya rakha hain*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
@jaganboorla: Re# 201873-4
click here

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Jul 29 2011 (2:54AM)
Blog Post# 201873-39     
Guest: 893e1dd4   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 29 2011 (3:15AM)
@S K सीरवी©: Re# 201873-3
Correct! If there are two SRCTZN traveling together then, the PRS automatically allots general quota. The SRCTZN must travel alone to avail this quota. Personal experience. My parents had to travel urgently from NDLS to BLS due to death of a relative. They tried to booked a 3A ticket in BBS Raj and got WL/24 and 25. However, the counter clerk suggested my father to fill separate forms for him and my mother. And then he issued confirmed tickets. Only issue, one seat was B1-12 and the other B8-57. So, they had to travel separately throughout the journey...

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Mar 28 2011 (4:15PM)
Blog Post# 130556-1     
DB*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 28 2011 (4:44AM)

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Mar 28 2011 (4:18PM)
Blog Post# 130556-3     
aliasloadfailed   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
Few lower berth are marked to be allocated only to senior citizens or Females above 45 years when travelling alone,
From Idianrail.gov.in:
[$] Lower berth Quota A Lower berth Quota has to be provided in AC and Sleeper classes for senior citizen and women above the age of 45, travelling alone

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Mar 28 2011 (4:23PM)
Blog Post# 130556-4     
DB*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)

To add:
There should be only 1 person per PNR.

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Mar 28 2011 (4:29PM)
Blog Post# 130556-7     
BMTIR*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
For lower berth quota the person must be travelling alone

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Mar 28 2011 (4:38PM)
Blog Post# 130556-9     
Biplab Nayak*   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
Yes Harshal, the rule is 1 person per PNR or travelling alone as they say. The ruls is strange according to me. If it is all SS, then it should give from SS quota.

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Mar 28 2011 (4:54PM)
Blog Post# 130556-10     
DB*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)

Interesting to think that when a person applies for LB, wud he get the senior citizen concession?
Exactly what is the difference between SS and LB?

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Mar 28 2011 (5:01PM)
Blog Post# 130556-11     
aliasloadfailed   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
A small difference, Senior citizen discount in monetary terms is as per demand, when you specifically mark for that, but senior citizen quota (Lower berth quota) is applied irrespective of if you have asked for money discount on ticket or not, Lower berth quota is allocated just based on your age(60+ males of 45+ females) and if travelling alone.

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Mar 28 2011 (5:02PM)
Blog Post# 130556-12     
DB*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)

Usually in 1AC, besides getting the concession in fares, they are also provided guaranteed Lower berths in most of the cases.

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Mar 28 2011 (5:08PM)
Blog Post# 130556-13     
aliasloadfailed   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
True, because in case of 1A berth allocation is done at charting and also 1A have 50% berths as lower berths, where as in case of 2A it is 33% and 3A / SL it is 25% only.

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Mar 28 2011 (5:17PM)
Blog Post# 130556-14     
stpeeran   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
why the same procedure may not be followed for all classes to allot the berth depending upon the age at the time of chart preparation.

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Mar 28 2011 (5:26PM)
Blog Post# 130556-15     
aliasloadfailed   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
That is feasible if you do the berth allocation logic for whole class like 2A at the time of charting only, else only keeping Lower berth to be allocated at time of charting will cause to much fragmentation in people's itinerary. Means if you have 4 seats, then 2 each in different bays (upper berths).
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Additionally if all berths were allocated at the time of charting only for lower classes, then there will be to heavy crowd at chart display location to search for berths and will most probably be unmanageable.

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Mar 28 2011 (6:53PM)
Blog Post# 130556-16     
DB*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)

Suppose, there is a group booking for an entire 2AC Coach, and all of them gets cancelled in the due course. For all the WL'ed pax, berths wud be thus allotted at the time of charting. This would again create a confusion cz system would first try to allot to those eligible.

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Mar 28 2011 (7:14PM)
Blog Post# 130556-17     
aliasloadfailed   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
Just a small correction (in fact two):
1. A group booking for whole 2A coach getting cancelled is a rare phenomenon and doesn't happen every day in every train , so people rushing to charts in this case is not unmanageable.
2. Irrespective of number of cancellation there is always a maximum count till which point WL can grow for a class and Quota, so at the time of charting only that many people(max count defined for WL) will rush to verify the charts.

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Mar 28 2011 (7:19PM)
Blog Post# 130556-18     
aliasloadfailed   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
Just forgot to reply your one point.
"This would again create a confusion cz system would first try to allot to those eligible."
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Well allocation in SS Quota (Lower berth Quota) is a guaranteed phenomenon at the time of booking if there are any berths of SS Quota left. At the time of charting, what PRS berth allocation logic does is, it tries
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to give preference to Senior citizens for lower berth, but there is no guarantee in this scenario(WL pax getting confirmed and getting lower berth).
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Got hold of one of my mates working with CRIS, have asked him if he can help me out with complete requirement document for berth allocation logic or the design document. If I get that I will surely try to post the logic in simplified words.

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Mar 28 2011 (7:32PM)
Blog Post# 130556-19     
DB*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)

Sir,
I just made a factual assumption of what can happen. It was never practical!

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Mar 28 2011 (7:35PM)
Blog Post# 130556-20     
DB*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)

That is correct. There is no such guarentee for WL'ed pax gettin confirmed. However, journey leg also matters a lot. If a confirmed pax having berth booked from A-C has canelled his ticket, then the system would try to allot the berth to the WL'ed pax having the same journey stretch from A-C. Even if a pax at WL1 has booked the ticket from A-B or A-D.
However this is a very minimal issue. I am having a long lasting debate with another well known person out here.If you could kindly reproduce
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the berth allotment/charting/booking logic out here, I would be really grateful to you.

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Mar 28 2011 (9:06PM)
Blog Post# 130556-21     
aliasloadfailed   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
OK,
But please don't call me sir.
Saying Deepak is good enough, I am in your age group only (35Yrs till date).
:-)

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Mar 28 2011 (10:09PM)
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DB*^~   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)

Subtract 11 for me.

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Mar 28 2011 (10:13PM)
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PUNE WDP 4D   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
ok.

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Mar 29 2011 (5:06PM)
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stpeeran   Added by: moderator*^~  Jul 27 2011 (7:02AM)
if more than one adjustment can be done among themselves
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