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Dec 13 2016 (07:46)  Two suburban rail plans to be placed before Cabinet (www.thehindu.com)
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In what might be a ray of hope to thousands of commuters demanding a suburban rail system, City Development Minister K.J. George on Monday held a meeting to discuss two proposals by the Railways to implement the system in the city. This will be presented before the Cabinet for clearance.
The first proposal, estimated to cost Rs. 360 crore, involves conversion of 15 pairs of diesel electric multiple unit (DEMU) trains to mainline electrical multiple unit (MEMU) cars with 12 rakes for the Mandya, Bangarpet, and Gowribidanur sections. This would increase the
carrying capacity of trains from 1,000-1,500 passengers to 2,500 passengers. A total of 27 units of MEMU rakes would have to be procured at a cost of Rs. 278 crore. An additional Rs. 25 crore would be needed for augmentation of the maintenance facility for these new rakes at Banaswadi.
As part of the second proposal, the Railways has suggested intermediate block splitting and automatic signalling at various points at a cost of Rs. 8.01 crore. This would help start new MEMU services during peak hours between Baiyappanahalli and Whitefield. However, this service would be temporary till the time Namma Metro becomes operational in Whitefield.
“The railways is also considering introducing new services after the rake conversion and running commuter train service from Jnana Bharati and Nayandahalli to Ramanagaram. Besides, integration of the yard at Jnana Bharati and Nayandahalli with Namma Metro services has also been agreed in principle,” a statement issued by Mr. George’s office said.
Project delayed
Suburban rail experts say that while this is definitely a move forward, it remains to be seen if the government is serious on the execution. “This is an interim arrangement, but a good thing. However, it has already been delayed by six months as it had been discussed earlier in May. It should have already been cleared. Now again, a Cabinet note will be put up for approval and once the order is placed it will take at least six months to procure the rakes,” said Sanjeev Dyamanavvar, a campaigner for suburban rail system for Bengaluru.

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Dec 14 2016 (08:49)
SWR 6th cleanest zone in IR~   4216 blog posts   314 correct pred (69% accurate)
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It is better to save the city first by suburban trains than thinking of long distance trains. Currently people of Bengaluru are spending half of there life in traffic, cities like Hyderabad and Pune has less traffic compared to Bluru, because of suburbs. BMRC is not everywhere as rail lines, and this is cheaper also.

Dec 14 2016 (09:25)
For Better Managed Indian Railways~   1933 blog posts
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Bro B'luru very badly needs better public transport. A new project should be planned with a view on the long term utility. If the long term requirements are not considered at the initial planning stage, the services remain substandard for ever as it becomes very difficult to consider and make alterations in the systems after implementation is over.
As per current norms/practices, Intra city travel is basically a business of Municipal Corp/Development authority of city and business of IR is intercity travel.Today IR is already neck deep in the losses due to suburban, passenger trains and II class express classes. It does not want to aggravate the problem. Karnataka State govt/ municipal body of B'luru should take cue from Govt of
Maharashtra/ CIDCO Mumbai etc and take initiative and participate in developing an efficient suburban rail system for Bangluru through joint venture so that the project can be speedily implemented without any funding problems.

Dec 14 2016 (09:58)
SWR 6th cleanest zone in IR~   4216 blog posts   314 correct pred (69% accurate)
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If it gets started now, they will definitely add a dedicated lines for suburb trains in future. First it has to kick off and should give effective response and road traffic should decrease. Don't have hope on current GoK, they think for BMTC profit and this CRS will bring them in loss, only hope is on IR/SWR. If there is loss by suburbs then raise the standards and charge more, bring AC locals, as they did in Mumbai.

Dec 14 2016 (09:59)
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A long term project is obviously the ideal approach, but there are several hurdles in this case. 1st thing is that there is a very severe lack of space in the city. While separate tracks for a suburban system are possible in some areas, for almost 60% of the route, there is no scope to add more than one additional line to the existing tracks. And most of the areas beside the tracks are major townships and apartments in which politicians have a large stake or there are colonies that have been present there for several decades. So relocation of these people is out of the question.
The city planning, particularly in the Whitefield and nearby areas
is very pathetic. Only 2 Main roads connect whitefield to the rest of the city and both are always choked with traffic. Any blockage in these roads ( which is required if they have to construct the metro) will push the traffic here into a state beyond a nightmare!! It is yet to be seen how even the Metro will be constructed in these areas, let alone a fully planned suburban train system.
As of now, there are spare platforms at KJM, WFD and BNC that can be used for the suburban trains and in addition, the YNK-KJM/BYPL line is only used by 6 pairs of trains daily, making it free for running suburban trains. CSDR station on this route can be used as a starting point for suburban trains and it will be useful for a large number of people.
A long term plan will take a very long time to materialize, by which time, the situation in the city will become far, far worse. At least some temporary arrangements should be made until a full fledged plan is drawn up/implemented to provide some relief to our city folks.

Dec 14 2016 (10:13)
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Suburban trains would be cheap, loss making and politically comprised.

Dec 14 2016 (10:31)
Tabbys star and the Alien outpost~   2545 blog posts
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Loss-making, definitely. Politically influenced? Could be. KA politicians have large investments in the private transport in the state and have been largely inactive in terms of demanding development of railways in the area. Even if they publicly demand for the suburban system, it's very likely that many of them will work against it in the background.
The city is really struggling with the issue of transport and the BMTC is not at all helping matters. The Metro too, has been delayed very much and it has shown it's toll on the city traffic. IR is the only savior for most people. Many of us used to rely on long distance trains to commute within the city and
save time.

Dec 14 2016 (10:39)
SWR 6th cleanest zone in IR~   4216 blog posts   314 correct pred (69% accurate)
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The case is opposite in KA, politician don't like it, they can't make money out of it. They are happy with KSRTC/BMTC bus transports. Nowadays people are using long distance trains and pulling chain near at suburban station, which is delaying long distance trains also.
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