HBJ/Bhopal HabibGanj (5)

Worst proposal, why to cancel a duranto which is having full demand.
Not required at all.

good idea, but the problem is only we railfans get these ideas . the rly officials have no idea on passenger comfort. pls forward this to the railway officials.

Not needed, Punjab Mail already departs CSTM at 19:40 which has great quota for Bhopal
Further no need to convert this Super train into a WE... :P

Cleaning and maintenance timing at HBJ may be very less as per your proposed TT. And, conversion of Drnt to SF Exp may not be accepted! Is it a white elephant at present? Pl, update me.

Definitely not needed. NGP Drnt is a prestigious train from NGP to CST and has full demand throughout the year. There is no reason to extend this train to BPL.

show the data after 17 June.

Punjab mail ka load kam ho jayega sir ji. and main nahi keh raha ki NGP Duronto is WE or highly popular. i'm just saying that the rake which remains idle for whole day at Nagpur can be best utilized this way.

Arey june 17 has so much time by that time it will fill.

full demand? yeah... available after 17 june.

i did not said in my first post that this is WE or highly demanded or prestigious train. I just said that rake cane be utlized which is idle for whole day at NGP.

hahahaha.... so much time? only 6 days not 60 days far.

Check it on 17 th and tell...6 days is enough to get filled.

NGP Duronto is Highly Popular and one of the most Successful trains of Duronto Category despite being a daily in addition to the other two dedicated dailies and also so many east bound trains, Regularly runs with extra coaches
So extension is not needed
Bhopal also has high demand and for that one new train can be sought...

maintenance time at HBJ is not less. 2 hours is more then enough to atleast do the dusting inside the coaches and toilets and fill water. the train can rest at the platform itself and depart later. further full maintenance can be done at CSTM where it will again be idle for around 12 hours.

this not required to change !

are yaar maine kya kaha samajh aya ya nahi?

As most of the members are saying it is highly popular. So, converting it to SF Exp may not be a good idea.

Your first post talks about extension of the train to BPL. If it was about rake utilization, I will still not agree as it will require min 6 hours each way (Rajdhani speed) and atleast 1 hour at BPL and thereby the rake may not return on time and hence delay NGP drnt. To cap it all, the rake will suffer in maintenance.....

Rajdhani takes 5 hrs 20 mins.

I will send a proposal to railways today evening. may be this July they can convert it to SF.

popular hai demand hai.... but 18 june se to bahut sari seats available hain. ok leave it. i'm only talking about rake utilization. i'm not saying that nagpur quota should be reduced.

proper maintenance can be done at CSTM where it again remains idle for 12 hours.

Bhopal shatabdi ko 15 min me saaf kar ke chala dete hain Bhopal se or 8 ghante me delhi se to fir is train ko 2 ghante me saaf kar ke nahi chala sakte kya Bhopal se? kya bat karte ho. and you must be knowing ki WCR is so good at housekeeping and maintenance of trains.

Good suggestion, there's no dedicated train from mumbai to bpl,nagpur has a lot of options to mumbai.The no. of coaches too can be increased later on.

CSTM NGP DRNT is backed by Maharashtra MLAs... so there is no chance of extension. :p

Sirf Rake utilization k liye extension? Great!!
Please post this suggestion to any CR official (especially Nagpur Division) and see what response you get...

As far as maintenance of the rake at CSTM goes, I think in most probability it will have RSA with proposed CSTM SUR daily or any other interstate dailies.....

12153/12154 Mumbai LTT - Bhopal Habibganj - Mumbai LTT...

Shatabdi to Shatabdi hoti hai..Top Priority..... ..waise kaafi trains aise extension se maintenance main low ho gayi hai.....

The best way to run the same rake between Nagpur and Bhopal is to run this train as a another duronto between Nagpur and Bhopal by providing seperate number. So by that the qouta and Duronto tag will not get affected.

Rather than Converting DRNT to SF, either divert MSK(Mah Samp Kranti) from NGP or start a VSK(Vidarbha SK).

Nothing is gonna happen... :P :D

Hahaha... Itna hyper kyu ho rhe ho yaar. Log Bhopal Shatabdi ko Nagpur extend krne ki bat kar skte hain to Main Nagpur Duronto ko extend krne ki bat nhi kar skta Kya? And also this is quite feasible unlike the Bhopal Shatabdi extension.

and major advantage would be... Fastest connectivity to jhansi and gwalior and morena. The connecting train... None other then Bhopal Shatabdi. Hahaha :p

Kuch nahi hone wala - Na BPL Shatabdi Nagpur extend hogi aur nahi NGP Duronto HBJ extend hogi.

There's just 1 train and that too weekly.
For nagpur we have nandigram, sewagram, vidharba and duronto which are all daily.

Not being hyper :P
See both Shatabdi and Duronto can never be extended for different reasons
Extending Shatabdi to Habibganj itself is proving to be so hard for WCR forget Nagpur (its against the concept of Shatabdi)
Even Duronto has zero scope for extension, No hard feelings but only in dreams it can be possible... :D

Vidharbha sampark kranti is impossible unless untill vidharbha becomes another state....instead my suggestion would be to start a daily exp b/w nagpur and dehradun via bpl-agra.

Are sir... Awes Khan ji se bolunga. Wo karwa denge.

easy...
This is not a fun blog. Bas dil me mansha ho to ye extension ekdam possible he. And it will prove to be huge success.

_/\_ Dhanya ho, All the Best
Please request CR officials for the extension... :D

Not a good thought.NGP duranto is the most prestigious duranto in IR.It runs on WL every year and has high demand.Also,CR will never extend this to HBJ forget about converting it to S/F.There are many trains from CSTM-BPL and NGP-HBJ/BPL.

Pune - Nagpur Garib Rath extension till Bhopal and Lucknow having RSA with Bhopal - Lucknow Garib Rath.... hai na zabardast idea. superhit :-))

hoooo... I thought Sealdah Duronto is the most prestigious Duronto of IR. :(

Neya SAMPARK KRANTI ke liye Nitish ji ko dubara RM banana padega . ;-)

Not even in your dreams!

aapko to prestige ki padi hai. full year WL rehti hai. kahan hai WL. ye week chhod ke uske bad puri khali padi hai NGP Duronto. passenger ki socho. logo ko na sirf Mumbai,,, balki Igatpuri or Bhusaval or Itarasi se bhi Nagpur or Bhopal ka alternate SF connection mil jayega. rake dhoop me sadne se acha to utilize hi kar liya jaye. kya galat hai isme?

hahaha... :p
mujhe pata tha aapka yahi jawab hoga.

CR will never extend its trains to other parts especially which serves two divisions of CR,
Extend Lucknow-Bhopal GR to Pune via MMR-KYN-PNVL... :P

Extend BPL Shatabdi to BSL and Shaan E Bhopal to NGP :P

kyun chin rahen ho ye GR(PNE-NGP) ham Vidarbhiyon se.
yeh Ek hi toh hain jo Kitna bhi waiting confirm karti hain.

Agar aaj 11 tareek hai aur kal 17 tareek hai to i will HAPPILY ACCEPT CSTM-NGP Duronto is NOT SUCCESSFUL
Bhai ye daily train hai, 2 aur dedicated dailies hai plus so many east bound trains which have High NGP quota, Is sab ke baad bhi is duronto me itni WL hai zara socho
Leave apart Rake utilisation, So many trains in CR have high TAT so will you start extending them to other possible parts? :P
Bhopal needs one another High speed dedicated daily train from Mumbai...

Grrrrrrrrrrrr :-))

Great Idea! SEB also has very high Idle time at HBJ :P
Going by this logic we will have to ask for extensions of all ONT trains which have high TAT...

high WL hai to utna hi high clearance bhi to hai :-))

nahi nahi... main kaun hota hu kuch chhinne ya dene wala. haan ... dene ki bat hai to Vidarbhiyo ko Bhopal or Kanpur/Lucknow tak ka ek sasta connection mil jayega. kitni khushi ki bat hai.

Jis train ko tri weekly se daily banaya gaya vo waste banke khadi rehti hai?
khade rehna araam karna paap hai kya? bina maintainence work kiye bass bhagte ho?
Sabse jyada teez bhagti hain yeh, 12 ghanta ruk ke maintainence nahi karenge is train ka?

No merit in such type of extension!!!!
And even if the idea is considered, it is a long route, so not at all relevant...

Agreed, But as long as it runs to the capacity the WL does not matter
Extension is just not possible, Agar hamari baat jhoot lagti hai to aap khud CR officials se request kar ke dekh lo, See what will be their response... :P :)

maine kab bola ki maintenance mat karo? bola kya kahin??

CSTM is already under pressure maintaining so many trains.
This train's primary maintainence was CSTM only and then NGP became the primary maintainence.
CSTM will take no new trains for maintainence under it's div. Exception to this can be CSTM Rajdhani (if given) lol

CR ko request karna bevkoofi hogi. wo kabhi response nahi karte. :(

you said 12 hours idle khadi rehti hain
Howrah Rajdhani and Sealdah Rajdhani Express rake remain idle for more than 24 hours!
and this train is used by public asa nahi hai bharti nahi... agar bharti nahi to triweekly se daily nahi karte isse.

It is agreed that BPL needs a train to Mumbai so follow it up with WCR.

maine to kaha hi nahi ki bharti hai ya nahi. pehla post padh lijiye mera. or jo WL hai wo clear bhi hoti hai. or ek week ke bad to puri khali padi hai. bharne se mana kaun kar raha hai. thode bhopal jane wale bhi bhar jayenge. bas.

isse achi train kya hogi. thoda route lamba hai direct route se par Nagpur walo ko dono taraf fayda hai.

Rail Mantri se kar lijiye, Shayad wo kuch jugaad laga paaye... :P :)

Ji nahi,idea acha nahi he.Railway Board manjuri nahi dega.

kya bura hai idea me?

1) NGP duranto is prestigious(popular) train in CR.
2) This train runs under high WL throughout the year(Even after 3 direct trains to NGP and hordes of other trains from CSTM-NGP)
3) Rake remaining ideal is not a problem for CR NGP division since primary maintenance is easily done at NGP.NGP Division ke pass kafi space he.
4) There are many trains from CSTM-BPL and NGP-BPL.
5) Turnaround time given by you is very less at HBJ.
6) This is not the type of duranto which should be converted to S/F.

mumbai se bhopal janeliye long cut lenge log?
bsl-et-bpl avoided and bsl-ngp-et-bpl.
ye train pe ankh to mat hi maro. this is like rajdhani of CR. WCR separate division nahi banta to shayad dusra LHB rake lakar super fast chalu karte cstm bpl ke bich. and already bohot trains hain, 2 ac express hain, jin me se ek ac exp Rajdhani me convert hone ke chance hain

1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 >>> Disagree.

Its not worth discussing this suggestion. It has operational problems as well as inconvinience for passangers...

jinko shortcut route me seat nahi milti wo log lenge Bhopal ka reservation. or Bhopal se age jane wale bhi bahut log honge.

no operational issues. convenience for passengers between CSTM-NGP and NGP-BPL and CSTM-BPL (when reservation not available in regular trains)

We have nandigram express for nagpur. mumbai se baithne wala admi nandigram kabhi nahi pakdega to go nagpur.
and nagpur to bhopal rajdhanis hain GR hain, sf trains like GT, TN, AP hain.
cstm se bhopal janekeliye bhi bohot hain
agar train chaeye bhopal to mumbai to separate chalu honi chaeye not with this one

Dekhiye,aap WL clear hone ki jo baat kar rahe hai,wahi iss train ko prestigious banati hai.
This is a train where you get reservation easily even at the last moment and still the train runs to full capacity.Same with PUNE GR.
This train is like Shatabdi of CR where people get reservations even at last moments.
It is also like Rajdhani of CR because of its speed and prestige.

I never claimed that its prestige will go down if extended till Bhopal. and I agree that it is like Rajdhani of CR and it will remain Rajdhani of CR even after extension.

separate train ke sapne mat dekhiye or na kisi ko dikhaiye :)
CSTM-Bangalore route jo highly highly very highly demanded hai.... usme ajtak CR ek GR ya Duronto to chhodiye SF bhi introduce nahi kar payi even upon so many requests and suggestions forwarded to CR.

CSTM-SBC route mein bohot shortcomings hai like single line and unelectrified sections.
Its not the case with CSTM-BPL.

then ap ye sapna bhi dekhna chod dijiye.
Nagpur se Vidarbha Express chin li gayi, weekly Jnaneswari Super Deluxe chin li gayi , tab jake ye Duronto Mili.... Duronto ka definition hain sirf aur sirf do station ko service dena and ye train vo kaam bohot achse kar rhi hain.
triweekly se daily ban gayi sawal hi paida nhi hota iska sf banane ka
jo trains flop thi like CDG ASR Duronto unhe sf me convert kiya. this train is not a flop
Starting me sirf 2 AC ke dabbe the and ab 8 dabbe hain ac ke. demand kam nhi hui baddi hain ulta

So far 465 views..1 follower and 5 'Yes'. Now you decide what to do..:)

Extension. Amen!

ha ha ha...

ha ha ha ha ....

ha ha ha lol hehe :/

are bhaiya ji.... Bhopal tak hi extension ki bat bol raha hu. koi New Delhi ki bat nahi kar raha. or kafi hadd tak possible hai. maintenance ka zimma CSTM ko uthane dijiye... load hai pressure hai uski tension aap mat lijiye. prestige ki bat hata dijiye.... tab sochiye ki is extension me koi nuksan hai kya?

apart from 5 YES others who don't agree belong to CR. hahahahaha :P

Arre but train WCR ko chaeye and CR kyun maintain karega?
WCR khali baitha rahe hai... and kaam karne wale kaam kare?
Already ek train LTT HBJ CR maintain kar rha hain
Jabalpur to Maintain kar rha hai CSTM GR then Bhopal kyun nahi kar sakta maintain?
A new WCR train from Bhopal to Mumbai via ET-khandwa-Bsl will better or Ye long cut wali sf train?

lo ji... main koi aapka dushman hu kya? hahahahaha :P :D
agar HBJ pe enought time ho TAT ke liye to WCR ko koi aeitraaz nahi train maintain krne me. sirf NGP-CST-NGP passengers ki convenience (TT) ko dhyan me rakh kar ye TT banaya hai nahi to kuch or bhi bana sakta tha... jisse HBJ pe TAT ke liye 8-10 ghante ka time mil jata.

We all are having emotional attachment with our own zonal railway. If you seek my opinion to transfer rake of Geetanjali Exp to CR. I will object strongly. But it is not in our hand. If it is good for pax, there is no harm.
All the best..:)

Ap Rail Minister bane to ho gaye dhanya hum sab.
sach me what a bravo idea this is
New train short route se chalu karne acha existing from via long cut extend karo great!
WCR New train chalu karega via Khandwa to Mumbai that will be better or via Nagpur is better?
Dont forget Nagpur Bhopal route bhi kam packed nahi hain.... Rajdhani, Garib rath and important trains like AP TN Dakshin Sampark krantis bohot hain.

are rake apne paas rakh ke kya dinner me khana hai? nahi na. jo bhi maintain kar sake rake usko primary maintenance de do. passenger ko kya padi hai ki maintenance CR kare ya ER ya NER ya koi or.

If you are so confident of extension and its success then you should really write to IR regarding your grievance and see what response you get,
Simply Arguing here wont help... :P :) :D

bhaiya ji.... maine NGP ki janta ka dhyan rakh kar isko BSL-KNW-ET ho ke divert krne ki bat nahi ki. fir to aap goli hi mar dete mujhe. hahahaha :P :D

not arguing. simply discussing. those talking of prestige and all are simply fuming.

aap main ya koi or kuch nahi kar sakta. so nothing to take anything so personal. lets discuss its pros and cons rather then talking about prestige and other useless things.

main rail minister bana to sabse pehle CSTM NGP Duronto ko SF me convert kar ke Bhopal tak extend karunga. Lol :P
hahahahaha :P

Rahul Bhai, your demand is not at all possible considering present scenario of IR.
Aur agar extend karvana hi hai to pehle /train/1559/664/452 karvao please :p :D ;)

That's what discussion here wont bring any consensus, For the proposal to materialize you should write to IR and await their views on this matter, Anything wrong here?... :P :D

SEE THIS
/blog/post/780402

nothing wrong bro. nothing wrong even in discussion too :-))

baap re!
kya keh rahe ho sir aap. mujhe desh drohi karar kar ke desh se nikal diya jayega. hahahaha :P

Hahaha, Ok carry on with it... :D

haan dekha tha maine. uska kuch nahi kar sakta koi.

sir, why my demand is not possible? and what is the present scenario which hinders the extension apart from prestige and greed of CR :)

Extension of this train is not good proposal. This is very important duronto train for NGP which reach to NGP in 11 hrs.
Converting this to SF is bad idea and then all in between stations will demand stops from CSTM - NGP will increase the journey time.
Already bhopal is having good connectivity (more than 7 trains) from mumbai via BSL 825km, so this new proposal of 1224 km is absolutely not feasible.

Pune nagpur garib rath ko bhopal tak extend kiya ja sakta hai and by this both pune & ngp will be benefited.....pune will get a good train for bhopal..and so will nagpur......!!!!

Why demanding extension to bhopal when there is other trains available which is following shortest route. If this extension is required then all the trains of IR should go end to end. first of all we should understand the requirements of short trains like NGP garibrath...this train is for vidarbha connectivity to Pune and already running packed every week. So think from the view of vidarbha region.
I am always travelling from pune to badnera and as per my experience one need to book tickets atleast 30 days prior to journey date.

First check out what actually is demanded here. Its nt about the pune ngp route demand,its about the insufficient trains between ngp and bpl.. Here in the blog,person has suggested for extension of cstm ngp duranto to bpl. Is this not bad for the of your vidharbha region...??
Already,pune nagpur sf exp runs great and just at the gap of one hour,mighty azad hind also goes to nagpur. And i hav seen,one whole sl bogie,i think the s5 or s6 is given fully to the pune to ngp bound people.

I have read this blog since begining. Please read my all post before this garibrath related post. You are saying one whole bogie for ngp bound people. probably you dont know how many people dailiy travelling from pune - ngp.
After filling daily 2-3 trains atleast 100 private volvo like buses running packed from pune-ngp.
Who says insufficient trains from NGP - bhopal, check again please.....

What i m saying is true....i think in sl of azad hind,nagpur quota is about 80 to 100 seats...and for the sake of the vidharbha region i.e akola,badnera,murtizapur, CR had started a pune amravati triweekly exp. So u can't say that trains are insuffiecient in no. or in quota. Dedicated trains r already present b/w cstm/pune-ngp like vidharbha exp,sewagram exp,pa-ngp sup exp etc etc.
Whereas from ngp to bpl,all south trains go bt just check out how much seats quota is present in trains like tn exp,a.p exp,gt exp etc..?

Such extensions is not the solution for problem in NGP-bhopal frequency...

May i know the reason whts the reason that its nt feasible....??
Actually the duranto extension is impossible bt this gr extension is possible...or otherwise a new train cstm ngp sup exp via pune-dd-latur can be started...?? And i dnt think it would be that tiring as nandigram exp is already doing good via nanded...!!

This is reaching at NGP 9:30am and leaving back 6:30pm. How this train can reach and back from bhopal in 9 hrs idle time (6hrs avg time from bhopal-ngp)? rather my suggestion is NGP-bhopal intercity or shatabdi is better solution..or Nagpur Indore express/trishatabdi frequency should increase..

this is a crappy suggestion...this is not a serious proposal u have put forward...all ur arguments are just out of vandeta...please dont settle ur personal scores on a public forum...please take it to ur personal space...

personal scores? hahahaha... hohoho :)
LOL :P
well... thanks for your nice words.

u kno what i am talking about...apni bhadas yahan par mat nikalo...jinhone aapke ego hurt kiya hai...unke upar personally nikalo, agar aapko woh hi karna hai toh...u act too smart !!

Thanks. bye.

If this is a fun blog.....haha....A Very Bad joke...Izzat rakhne ke liye hasna pad raha hai

This is image of bord of Mumbai cst Nagpur Duranto

Instead of extending to BHOPAL,It can be extended to bilaspur,having separate quota for NAGPUR AND BILASPUR PASSengers.According to ur tt,nagpur halt cannot be just 5 minutes.As this train will be packed with Nagpur passengers,it should have atleast 20 minutes halt.At 7am it can run as a nagpur bilaspur duronto or nagpur bilaspur non stop.
NAGPUR-7.OO ,BILASPUR 12.15.
BILASPUR-16.00,NAGPUR-21.15,MUMBAI-8.30
In this case it will also have enough time at bilaspur for maintainence and also at cst.
how about this

Better idea than bhopal extension atleast

hahaha :)

bhai as per our frnds from Nagpur, this train use to reach Nagpur before time. so 5 mins is just proposed TT. practically it can be more just like incase of a loco change at IGP.
well, aapka suggestion bhi koi bura nahi hai.

Koi bat nahi... ye board to change ho jayega....
"Mumbai CST - Bhopal Habibganj Superfast Express"

Lagta hai decoration ke liye mangwaya hai WCR ne yeh rake.....:P

Shubh Muhurat nahi mila :P

Hmm ISO Certfied Habibganj station ki shaan thodi aur badhane k liye hi yeh rake shayad yahan abhi tak rakha hai... :D

Pehle mila tha, But at the same time Bansal Ji ka pack-up ho gaya... :P

Proving out to be a WE even before the start of its run......:P

This DD must be one of the cleanest DDs of India..
Btw nice pics :)

Inauguration k pehle hi WE mat bolo :( :P
Even if it manages to register 70% occupancy it would be Great...

I doubt it. Plus the hectic schedule would take a toll on the rake and its cleanliness.

Most of the points does not favor success of this train and Expectations are really not much but you never know, I wish this DD does well... :)

Even I wish the same. But it is hard to turn a blind eye to reality....:(

decoration? are acha khasa chalta hai ye. dono EOG din bhar chalte rehte hain. lagta hai WCR ka pura staff isme office khol ke baitha hai.

bansal ki pawan chali gayi to muhurat kahan se milega.

shaan hi badhani hai to ek semi-circular shape ka bada FOB bana ke is gadi ko us par chadha do.... khub shaan badhegi HBJ ki. :-))

Lol, Genius Idea... :D :P

Engineering Innovations!

LARGER VEIW, clicked from F.O.B.

good catch, initially i thought it was painting

these tpyes of splendid shots from u is just a wow...
sparkling double daker is looking awesome....this will be the pride of wr let it gain popularity

the paint is very eye catching

dil kush kar diya rahul bhai

SPAM.

Mera bhi dil khus gaya tha jab maine ise dekha, kyu ki life me first time apne ankhon se DD exp. dekha . is se pehle kewal pics me hi dekha tha.

very clear pic ,i think bpl wale isko chupa ke he rakhna chate hai first run tak :) ,i hope ye DD train new WE na bane p:)