Apr 12 2016 (2:47PM) Train Tag: New Delhi - Sealdah AC Duronto Express/12260 added by Kirk/1453304
Apr 12 2016 (2:47PM) Train Tag: New Delhi - Sealdah Rajdhani Express/12314 added by Kirk/1453304
New Delhi to Kolkata Train Preference 1) 12302 NDLS-HWH Raj India's first Raj; the ER king is still the first priority for anyone travelling on this route; no questions asked. 2) 12314 NDLS-SDAH Raj ... more...
Taking largely the same route and same timings as the HWH Raj; there is not much difference between the two. Mostly an item of personal preference when booking. 3) 12260 SDAH Duronto India's first Duronto and theoretically taking lesser time any of the Rajdhanis,it still gets lesser priority than the Rajdhanis and may get delayed; still a good option for travelling[pure LHB coaches]. 4)12274 HWH Duronto First train on the list to also have SL coaches; has a good TT between NDLS and HWH, but suffering from lack of priority from controllers; also has hybrid -LHB instead of pure LHB. 5)12304/12382 Poorva Exp Tough choice between this and the legendary Kalka Mail; this wins because of LHB rakes and more punctuality than the Mail(also has better railfanning opportunities since it faces OT by all the east bound Rajdhanis). 6)12324 ANVT-HWH Exp Takes lesser time than the Poorva exp and runs with a better TT(morning arrival at Howrah); though lacks a PC(pantry car); maybe considered over the Poorva in some cases[LHB rakes as well]. 7)12312 Kalka Mail Historically the most important train running on this route; this train(used to run as 01 UP/02 DN) has been degraded by the IR in recent years; runs delayed very often. Has a good morning arrival at HWH though. 7)12250 ANVT-HWH Yuva exp A weekly train; on paper the fastest on the route; though not given high priority. Also the fact that it lacks a PC and has very low stoppages makes it worse[ICF rake and personally don't feel like travelling overnight in a chair car]. 8)12330 WB Sampark Kranti Exp Faster than either the Poorva or the Kalka Mail, but has a bad arrival time at Sealdah(evening arrival, may be a problem if it gets delayed too much). 9)13008 Toofan Exp One word, don't. There is no reason to travel by this train(especially end to end). Takes 36 hours to cover the distance; has a bad TT(evening arrival at Howrah and it will get delayed). Too many stoppages in between. 10)22858 ANVT-SRC Exp Originally ran as a special; later regularized as a weekly. Hugely delayed and goes via the longer TATA-KGP route; use it as a last resort. 11)13120 DLI-SDAH Exp A super crawler; taking a mammoth 41 hours to cover the distance; runs without a Pantry Car. 12)13132 ANVT-KOAA Exp Purchase a cycle and start cycling towards Calcutta. You'll reach there before this train. Taking 40 hours to cover the distance, still horribly delayed by 10+ hours, cancelled every other day, no pantry car[will possibly get LHB in 100 years].
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Apr 17 2016 (2:39AM) See it evening arrival and average delayandadisaster,ohandnopantrycaraswell Trustme,havetravelled in this(backwhenitranasaspecial) and itwaspossiblythemosthorrendousjourneyI'vebeenthrough
The rake comes from SRC to ANVT and the same train goes after some time from ANVT; very less time it gets at ANVT, this creates delays while starting from source itself. See it evening arrival and average delay, it's quite bad. Though I do see merit in your argument, both trains are hugely delayed and lack pantry cars. 13008 actually takes way more longer. The only advantage is that HWH is easier to deboard at if one's train arrives at midnight.
And please once travel in SL class from kolkata to Delhi in Toofan express. Then you will feel heaven in 22858 , while onboard Toofan Express. Seems like you know nothing about our great "Crawling Legend" Toofan Express. LOL..
Obviously man , 13008 rightly deserves to be below 22858. Reasons: 1. Delhi to Kolkata , in 13008 I would be spending 36.30hrs (Adding delays it comes nearly 43-44hrs) , with "pathetic" 85 halts enroute. No pantry. No safety. No useful catering. And also arriving Howrah late night 1-2 am normally. 2. 22858 is better bcoz it takes mere 27.15hrs (Adding delays it... more...
comes out nearly 32-33hrs) with just 9 halts which is way better than Toofan Express. Pantry is not there , but still Catering Facility is present. Only glitch is its night arrival at SRC. But If it arrives SRC before 10 pm (which it generally does) , then transport are present for connectivity with Kolkata town. 22858 is not good for Connecting journey from Kolkata , but its surely Far more better than travelling Delhi to Kolkata & vice versa for a Local Kolkata inhabitant. Now tell me , for arriving at Howrah instead of SRC , are you ready to risk your safety and waste nearly 10-12 hrs extra in 13008 Toofan express?
Maintenance is still manageable , but the main problem is very less TAT at ANVT which causes the 22858 to start on time from ANVT. If RB somehow changes its Departure Timings from ANVT to be late in the evening, then it can surely be able to arrive SRC by night 10-11pm and they can also extend it to HWH as after 11pm , the SER side becomes bit vacant as all major night departure (like Mail,Azadhind,Puri trains etc) would have already left HWH.
The problem with late departure from ANVT is that the evening slot is too full on that route. In either case, IR would have to reschedule the train to late evening(after Rajdhani gang) to make it any sense to run.
Thats what i am saying....The departure could be made late evening or may be at night after the Purushottam departure from delhi. If departure is made about 11pm from ANVT , then its scheduled arrival time at SRC can be made 3-4 am (adding delays it could arrive SRC by 6-7 am morning) which is very brilliant.
These points are very useful for passengers from other parts of India who are traveling for the first time between Calcutta and New Delhi. Even foreign tourists can go through these points to get an actual idea (although many of them travel from Calcutta to Gaya, then Gaya to Varanasi, Varanasi to Allahabad, Allahabad to Mathura and then to New Delhi)... thanks :)
Historic trains that have lost their value -> 1) Kalka Mail Initiated in 1864; this 01/02 was the primary way for government to transfer between its summer and winter capitals. The most important train on its route in its time.Sadly, it is delayed too much these days. Plays second fiddle to the Rajdhanis these days. 2) Imperial Mail Running... more...
between Mumbai and Calcutta, this was one of the most luxurious services in the world[click here it is treated as a second class train by IR now. Runs via the longer route and bad patronage. 3)Frontier Mail The first train with AC coaches; extremely punctual in its time. Runs between ASR and Mumbai nowadays, somewhat retains its glory. 4) G T Express The name's enough. Legendary train(ran b/w Peshawar and Mangalore once), overshadowed by Rajdhani and TN superfast. 5)Taj Express Primary link b/w Delhi and Agra when introduced,now plays supporting role to Gatimaan and Bhopal Shatabdi;still ISO certified though. Views are welcome.
Apr 18 2016 (8:47AM) Loco Tag: HWH/WAP-7/30369 added by RAJWDP4~/1100499
Apr 18 2016 (8:47AM) Loco Tag: HWH/WAP-7/30369 added by RAJWDP4~/1100499
DIVERTED TRAIN!!!FIRST & probably the last time 12312 DN KALKA MAIL departs BARH with HWH WAP-7 30369.Date 16-10-2014 06:23 AM.I also have managed to click SDAH AII exp,Poorva exp via GAYA & NDLS SDAH DURANTO exp.I was in the que for a ticket to PNBE,when I saw 12312 arriving I left the que and ran till end of PF,by the time it got green and soon P-7 started to overpower my run so I couldnt click the front of the loco.It was once in a lifetime moment & I was lucky to be at right spot the right time!
You are lucky to view Grand Chord Route Legendary trains diverted via Main Line Route. I had read somewhere that Doon Exp & Kalka Mail were made to run via Patna until Grand Chord Route became a robust option post 1906. Was #EDFC work the purpose for diversion? :)
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Gaya Junction/GAYA added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Dehri On Sone/DOS added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Dhanbad Junction/DHN added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Durgapur/DGR added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Asansol Junction/ASN added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Barddhaman Junction/BWN added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Tundla Junction/TDL added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Hathras Junction/HRS added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Kanpur Central/CNB added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Mughal Sarai Junction/MGS added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Mirzapur/MZP added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Shikohabad Junction/SKB added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Aligarh Junction/ALJN added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Ghaziabad Junction/GZB added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Old Delhi Junction/DLI added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Station Tag: Kalka/KLK added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:24PM) Train Tag: Kalka Mail/12312 added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Jan 01 2016 (12:22PM) Loco Tag: HWH/WAP-7 added by 12312 Kalka Mail/925750
Whatever our Zone is...., Whatever our favorite train is...! Keep them aside for a while and Wish a "Very Happy Birthday to Legendary 12311 HWH-KLK Kalka Mail"! . Happy Birthday To this Old Boy! And Salute to him for his Amazing Service For past 150 Years! Since 1866. .... more...
Connecting Millions from North to East. . .Archie Sir and his team along with some official decorated HWH WAP7 30328 as a bride!! see @ twitter click here #Salute_Kalka_Mail . Tum jiyo Hazaaro saal ke Saal ke din ho Pachhas Hazaar! . P.C:-Vishal Khare Edits:-Me(Anirudh Mukherjee)
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Thankyou For the appreciation ! DRM HWH Mr Badri Narayan Sir provided us special access and Mech Engg at HWH ELS and AME of Liluah Depot were along with us while decorating the Rake and Loco and Other numerous Staffs of ER helped us too. Later at the ceremony GM sir Felicitated us nicely and each and every newspaper published it today and Railway Ministry Tweeted with Our Picture. Here is me and Full ERFC with ER GM and DRM HWH.
It was a hard work on your part. I've traveled for 2 times in this train from Howrah to Delhi and this train NEVER disappointed me till now (although a few parameters may be rated up or down)... :-D A few questions from my side to you:- Q1) Were officials like the ER GM and DRM skeptical about Kalka Mail's LHBfication? Q2) Were there... more...
any other IRI Members apart from you in the ER Railfan Group at this occasion? Q3) What was the reddish maroon coach all about at the beginning of the Kalka Mail's rake? . Thanks :)