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0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
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Jul 09 2010 (11:34)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

Guest: 7e4a77d2   show all posts
Entry# 57090            Tags   Past Edits
Bandra Surat Superfast AC Express/0985 is still running or not running? In the timetable it is written upto January 27 it will run. But not cleared 2010 or 2011? When I found this website & opened this website two days ago this train was shown & today it is not shown Where is the my error?
  
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Dec 28 2009 (12:59)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

Guest: 45b6ec1d   show all posts
Entry# 17012            Tags   Past Edits
Thanks and congratulations to WR officials for quickly looking at the demands made now and many times earlier for shatabdi type fast trains between short distances. Two trains (for one month) starting w.e.f. 29.12.2009 between Bandra - Surat and Vasai - Surat both fully air conditioned trains with reasonalbe AC fare which is lower than shatabdi / duronto train. Surat - Bandra would cover the distance in just 3 hrs 40 min and Bandra - Surat would be in just 3 hr 35 min. Same way Surat -Vasai will be in just 3 hrs and Vasai - Surat in just 2 hr 40 min.
The departure timings from a) Bandra @ 10.30 am and b) from Vasai Road @ 6.35 pm
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The departure timings from Surat @ 6 am for Bandra and @ 3 pm.
Two shatabdi type trains for these two cities Mumbai-Surat for one month on expreimental basis. The train would be depending upon response made regular train after this one month experimental period.
Thanks to all WR officials for introducing these two trains. These trains would definitely ease the traffic in other long distance trains on this route ans passengers upto Surat would prefer these trains and avoid other Ahd / Delhi bound trains. Thanks once again.

  
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Dec 28 2009 (15:46)
Guest: 84aa36c6   show all posts
Re# 17012-1            Tags   Past Edits
What coaches is the WR using in it? the older shatabdi rake that was laying on the pit lines of Dadar WR? have they been given to Surat Stn for plying on ST-BDTS route? I know this question is not useful to the passengers at all..but being a railfain it just out of enthusiasm..

  
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Dec 28 2009 (18:14)
Manish*^   8593 blog posts   22349 correct pred (85% accurate)
Re# 17012-2            Tags   Past Edits
yes...even i think the unused older Shatabdi rake will be used for this train.

  
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Dec 28 2009 (18:21)
dhetul   1256 blog posts   155 correct pred (65% accurate)
Re# 17012-3            Tags   Past Edits
Demanding some more train daily/bi weekly/ tri weekly.
1. Surat To Bangalore (Garib Rath).
2. Surat To Nagpur
3. Surat To Pune.
I want to know public opinion. Please reply in same blog.
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Dec 29 2009 (19:47)
aamod   36 blog posts
Re# 17012-4            Tags   Past Edits
Yes, the old ICF Ahmedabad Shatabdi coaches are used..

  
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Mar 17 2010 (19:01)
Guest: 85c9a56b   show all posts
Re# 17012-5            Tags   Past Edits
ofcousre yes
surat pune shatabdi will do better compared with surat-bdts shatabdi
and surat nagpur overnight express should also be introduced
  
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Feb 08 2010 (13:22)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

Kapadia    2820 blog posts   4 correct pred (100% accurate)
Entry# 20354            Tags   Past Edits
Plz check the train running status.
Mostly it is not extended and hence need to highlihght the words -"Train is suspended"
  
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Jan 12 2010 (18:53)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

Guest: 84a9562e   show all posts
Entry# 18317            Tags   Past Edits
Do they provide Shatabdi like food service in this train?

  
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Jan 28 2010 (19:33)
aamod   36 blog posts
Re# 18317-1            Tags   Past Edits
Yes. Food is provided and its charges are included in ticket.. Btw, the train is not running now. Hope, its schedule is worked out and made permanent.. :-)
  
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Jan 12 2010 (11:11)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

Kapadia    2820 blog posts   4 correct pred (100% accurate)
Entry# 18286            Tags   Past Edits
As feared, the Bandra-Surat Shatabdi Spl (0985) has been rescheduled leaving Bandra @ 19.15 hrs and reaching Surat @ 23.30.
The travel time has been increased by 40 minutes i.e. travel time now is 4hr 15 min as against earlier time of 3 hr 40 min. Also stops at Andheri and Navsari ( 2 min. each) has been provided for.
The overall increase in travel time goes against the Shatabdi status.
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rescheduling has been done in view of low occupancy factor which was apprehended earlier by the blogger. [Refer blog entry Nos. 17520 ; 17254 ; 17145 ] The fare remains @ 465/- for AC CC.
The Gujarat shatabdi takes 3 hr 15 min to Surat and that too from Mumbai Central. Not only that number of other Superfast trains on this route take less time than this Shatabdi spl. It is unfortunate that fares are unchanged and charged as Shatabdi type. This is unfair and needs to be reconsidered by the concerned WR officers.

  
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Jan 12 2010 (12:45)
Manish*^   8593 blog posts   22349 correct pred (85% accurate)
Re# 18286-1            Tags   Past Edits
The timings of this train have now been scheduled to run behind Mumbai-Jaipur Superfast and Avantika Express. A better time would have been to depart from Bandra by 6:45 pm so that it could run in front of these 2 trains and reach Surat by 10-10:15 pm.

  
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Jan 12 2010 (17:45)
Kapadia    2820 blog posts   4 correct pred (100% accurate)
Re# 18286-2            Tags   Past Edits
One of the reasons may be other Superfast trains running ahead. Just consider Mumbai-Jaipur Superfast and Avantika both starting from Mumbai Central and taking only 3 hr 40 min and 3 hr 48 min ( 10 min reduced for Mumbai Central to Bandra time) respectively whereas this shatabdi spl with shatabdi fare of Rs. 465/- takes 4 hr 15 min. Total collapse of the train success. Even if the time is advanced to 6.45pm or even later @ 9.30 pm, the train will run almost empty as the travel time and fare both go against the passengers flavour.
The ideal way to run the train is simple SF train without compulsory catering with II class and CC coaches and
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the dep timing between 7 - 8.30 pm. and travel time at the most 3 hr 30 min.

The timings of this train have now been scheduled to run behind Mumbai-Jaipur Superfast and Avantika Express. A better time would have been to depart from Bandra by 6:45 pm so that it could run in front of these 2 trains and reach Surat by 10-10:15 pm.
  
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Jan 08 2010 (21:24)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

aamod   36 blog posts
Entry# 18042            Tags   Past Edits
This train will have halts at Andheri(ADH) and Navsari(NVS) w.e.f. 11th Jan 2010. More info at wr.indianrail.gov.in/Tnewssubmit.asp?id=1273
  
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Jan 02 2010 (12:25)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

Kapadia    2820 blog posts   4 correct pred (100% accurate)
Entry# 17520            Tags   Past Edits
Bandra-Surat Shatabdi spl (0985) today appears to have departed Bandra (BDTS) with AC Chair Car - available seats 564 and AC 1st Class - available seats 31 nos. .. Is not this mind blowing numbers ?
Train occupancy is abysmally low. The timings are also odd for this fast shatabdi leaving Bandra at 10.30 hrs and reaching 14.05 hrs ( 3.35 hrs travel time).
Neither the timing preferable to businessman nor to one day trip passengers. Also one has to face traffic congestions to reach all
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the way to Bandra to catch this train as the train does not stop at Andheri /Borivali. Same way Surat - Vasai Rd Shatabdi timing @ 15.00 d at Surat and Vasai Rd Shatabdi timing @ 18.35 d at Vasai Rd for Surat is very very much odd. Early morning and late night fast trains are the favourites for the passengers on this route. Let us now wait to hear more on these trains from WR division.

  
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Jan 02 2010 (12:44)
MST IndianRailways   1283 blog posts   7 correct pred (100% accurate)
Re# 17520-1            Tags   Past Edits
The train is meant for Surat ppl to travel in the morning and return in the evening. Mumbai ppl should use Ahmedabad Shatabdi.
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The train terminates at Bandra on its 1st trip and Vasai on its 2nd trip due to lack of time. If it was to go to Mumbai Central on both its trips, it cannot complete 2 trips in a day.
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It may not be halting at Borivali in the 1st trip due to megablock at Borivali.

  
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Jan 04 2010 (11:03)
Kapadia    2820 blog posts   4 correct pred (100% accurate)
Re# 17520-2            Tags   Past Edits
This train seems to have departed with ACCC - 557 available seats out of total 608 seats and AC1st Class - 33 available seats out of total 33 seats)
I agree with the response that the train is meant for Surat people.
However the response for morning Mumbai Bound Shatabdi spl is also poor and very low occupancy appears.
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from Flying Ranee, number of other fast trains are also available with timing wise hardly any difference say more time of 30 to 45 minutes. However with a stop at Borivali, Andheri & Dadar, the train serves the passenger utility of reaching faster to their ulitmate destination. Here apart from high fare, one has to spend extra time and extra money either for Taxi, Auto or Local train. Also the conveyance conditions at Bandra Rly Station is not satisfactory and since the Rly station is on the far side of the East, one has to take a long walk to catch a local train after alighting from Shatabdi spl at BDTS. 3

The position as appearing in this site :-
Seat & Berth availability :-
Status as of: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:14AM
Chair Car ; AC 1st Class
Rs. 465 ; Rs. 885
Mon Jan 04 Available 557 ;Available 33
Tue Jan 05 Available 589 ;Available 28
Wed Jan 06 Available 605; Available 31
Thu Jan 07 Available 606 ;Available 33
Sat Jan 09 Available 602 ;Available 27
Sun Jan 10 Available 603; Available 33
Mon Jan 11 Available 604; Available 33
Tue Jan 12 Available 602 ;Available 33
Wed Jan 13 Available 601; Available 33
Thu Jan 14 Available 608 ;Available 33
Sat Jan 16 Available 592 ;Available 33
Sun Jan 17 Available 604; Available 33
WR would definitely rethink on the regularisation of this train after the experimental period is over. And for that matter, they are requested to consider following factors :- a) Replace this Shatabdi train by Jan Shatabdi type train b) Introduction of Lean time fare structure c)
Introduce paid catering service as against compulsory catering d) provide stop at Andheri / Borivali e) Extend Surat -Vasai Rd-Surat Shatabdi spl to Borivali. Thanks in advance.
  
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Dec 30 2009 (17:25)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

Kapadia    2820 blog posts   4 correct pred (100% accurate)
Entry# 17254            Tags   Past Edits
The today's 30th Dec 2009 >> position of departed / departing spl shatabdis suggest following :-
0985 dn Bandra -Surat Shatabdi spl - departed 10.30 am with availability of AC CC - 678 seats and AC 1st Class -34 seats.
0987 dn Vasai Rd -Surat Shatabdi spl - departing 18.35 hrs on 30.12.2009 with availability of AC CC - 603 seats and AC 1st Class -33 seats.
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up Surat-Vasai Rd Shatabdi spl - departed 15.00 hrs on 30.12.2009 with availability of AC CC - 558 seats and AC 1st Class -33 seats.
These spl shatabdis as expected are almost running empty. WR officials are requested to look into this matter of high fare structure and remedy it instead of just putting a curtain of closure on such trains. The train may be converted into Jan Shatabdi type for its heavy success.
The alternative is to cut down the fare to just around Rs. 250/- (just to match it with Mum-Ahd duronto) and the To & Fro trip total collection towards fare would be Rs. 490/-. The total distance for duronto is 491 kms ) and for To-Fro trip for Bandra-Surat-Bandra would be 504 kms.
Fare from Vasai Rd - Surat - Vasai Road covering to & Fro distance is 430 kms (215 kms in each direction) and fare to become fare and reasonable should be around Rs. 225/-.
It is always better to have high occupancy level instead of running the trains empty and incur loss. Low fare would find flavour of the commuting public and will lead to successful regular train services after the experimetnal period is over.
  
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Dec 29 2009 (17:53)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

Kapadia    2820 blog posts   4 correct pred (100% accurate)
Entry# 17145            Tags   Past Edits
The fares for these shatabdi type trains to Surat from Bandra / Vasai Rd are very very high. There is distortion in fare structure within these train also.
The fare from Vasai Rd to Surat is 370/- as against fare of Rs. 410/- from Virar to Surat in this spl train starting from Bandra.
Look at this also :-
Virar to
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Surat (in Bandra-Surat Shatabdi) >> Rs. 410/-
Virar to Surat (in Vasai Rd -Surat Shatabdi) >> Rs. 365/-
Vasai Rd to Surat (in Vasai Rd - Surat Shatabdi) >> Rs. 370/-
Who will spend such exhorbitant amount ? Are there any food / snakcs facilities provided in the train like in Shatabdi .
From all counts, the fare structure would go against the favorable response of the train and in this one month experimetal period only the Rly would incur revenue loss for low occupancy and would eventually be closed after one month period and seems that they will not be regularised at all.
These short distance trains would be converted into Jan Shatabdis so more passengers can take lower fare benefit for the purpose of travel.
WR ought to have fixed fares at least in comparison to Shatabdi train fare structure and also exclude cost of all services which are provided in Shatabdis and would not be provided to that extent in these trains.
Only emergency passengers would take this train and not the public at large.

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4 posts - Wed Dec 30, 2009

  
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Dec 30 2009 (11:30)
Manish*^   8593 blog posts   22349 correct pred (85% accurate)
Re# 17145-6            Tags   Past Edits
I think this fare difference may be due to the fact that in Bandra-Surat Shatabdi, they may be serving both snacks and lunch while in Vasai-Surat Shatabdi only dinner may be served. This is only an assumption, not sure of it.

  
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Dec 30 2009 (11:50)
जितेश शुभ यात्रा*^   4124 blog posts   3108 correct pred (80% accurate)
Re# 17145-7            Tags   Past Edits
Yes this is the right answer. The fare difference is due to the food served during the journey. Dont make it a issue.
you can check this for 2005 NDLS KLK Shatabdi Exp (Fare is 450 for CC)
but for 2006 KLK NDLS Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 465 for CC )
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KLK NDLS Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 535 for CC)
2011

  
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Dec 30 2009 (11:54)
जितेश शुभ यात्रा*^   4124 blog posts   3108 correct pred (80% accurate)
Re# 17145-8            Tags   Past Edits
Yes this is the right answer. The fare difference is due to the food served during the journey. Dont make it a issue.
you can check this for 2005 NDLS KLK Shatabdi Exp (Fare is 450 for CC)
but for 2006 KLK NDLS Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 465 for CC )
also check for
2012
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KLK NDLS Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 535 for CC)
2011 NDLS KLK Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 465 for CC)
Here you can see the diff while the trains are running on same route, earlier Me, Mr Hetul & Mr Murli Discussed on this issue. Actually Mr Hetul Booked a ticket for one passenger for 2005 & 2006 and he noticed the difference. He asked me and I asked the answer Mr Murli then we decided to mail the matter to IRCTC and we get the answer mail from irctc that this difference is due to the food cost served in trains. In night train you will get the dinner also and it costs higher.
I think now the whole picture is clear to every one.
further discussion welcome on the issue.
Regards :)

  
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Dec 30 2009 (12:19)
Kapadia    2820 blog posts   4 correct pred (100% accurate)
Re# 17145-9            Tags   Past Edits

May be the food / lunch / dinner could be the only reason.
But look at this anomaly :-
Surat – Bandra shatabdi spl 252 kms 6.00 d 9.40 a 3.40 hrs journey @ 71 kmph Fare Rs. 465/- (timing wise no lunch / dinner )
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– Surat shatabdi spl 252 kms 10.30 d 14.05 a 3.35 hrs journey @ 71 kmph Fare 465/- (assuming with Snacks & dinner)
Surat – Vasai Rd 215 kms shatabdi spl 15.00 d 18.00 a 3 hrs @ 73 kmph Fare 370/- (timing wise no lunch / dinner)
Vasai Rd – Surat 215 kms shatabdi spl 18.35 d 21.15 a 2.40 hrs @ 82 kmph Fare 370/- (assuming with snacks & dinner)
Borivali – Surat in Ahd shatabdi 6.59 d 9.40 a 2.41 min @ 87 kmph Rs. 405/- (only snacks - no lunch)
Surat-Borivali in Ahd Shatabdi 18.00 d 20.52 a 2.52 min @ 82/- kms Rs. 435/- (only dinner)
To and from timings are different, however fare remains same here for these trains.
The issue is not being made out but the facts are being blogged and debated. The fare set up information ought to be made at suitable places by the WR. Else, the people just wonder.

  
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Dec 30 2009 (12:40)
जितेश शुभ यात्रा*^   4124 blog posts   3108 correct pred (80% accurate)
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As per my analysis in Surat – Bandra shatabdi spl 252 kms 6.00 d 9.40 a 3.40 hrs journey @ 71 kmph Fare Rs. 465/- snacks will be served
in Bandra – Surat shatabdi spl 252 kms 10.30 d 14.05 a 3.35 hrs journey @ 71 kmph Fare 465/- snacks and lunch will be served
in Surat – Vasai Rd 215 kms shatabdi spl 15.00 d 18.00 a 3 hrs @ 73 kmph Fare 370/- (not sure but I think lunch will be served)
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Vasai Rd – Surat 215 kms shatabdi spl 18.35 d 21.15 a 2.40 hrs @ 82 kmph Fare 370/- snack and dinner will be served
in Borivali – Surat in Ahd shatabdi 6.59 d 9.40 a 2.41 min @ 87 kmph Rs. 405/- only snacks will be served
One more thing food cost is decided by IRCTC not Indian Railway. So what is the calculation behind it I dont know.
But I gave you the answer based on reply given by IRCTC that difference in fare is due to cost of food served in particular train.
  
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Dec 30 2009 (12:35)   0985/Bandra Surat SF AC Express
 

Kapadia    2820 blog posts   4 correct pred (100% accurate)
Entry# 17227            Tags   Past Edits
What is the occupancy level on the first day 29th December 2009 of starting of these special Shatabdis ? The booking chart suggest a very high number of CC seat availability when you browse through these train time table and reservation status windows on this website. The WR seems to be going ahead with a heavy revenue loss in this one month experimetnal period of such spl Shatabdis. The available information suggest that old coaches of Mum-Ahd Shatabdis are being used which are not comfortable as the currently run Mum-Ahd shatabdi coaches are upgraded ones with more leg space, comfortability etc.
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