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Blog Entry# 2373195
Posted: Aug 07 2017 (03:12)

16 Responses
Last Response: Jan 16 2018 (11:37)
Aug 07 2017 (02:49)   Chennai Central - Mangaluru Central SF Mail (PT)/12601   Train - Train Name/Number

HOG WAM4 WAP1~   109 Conf TLs   0 Void TLs
Number: 12601
Train Name: Chennai - Mangaluru SF Mail
Regional Name: சென்னை - மங்களூர் அதிவிரைவு மெயில் / ಚೆನೈ - ಮಂಗಳೂರು ಸೂಪರ್ ಫಾಸ್ಟ್ ಮೇಲ್
Hindi Name: चेन्नई - मंगलुरू सुपरफास्ट मेल
Inaugural Run: 1862-05-12

Dec 12 2016 (14:23)   (previous value)
Timeline Entry# 1086654
by: Vijeth Bharadwaj*^~
Number: 12601
Train Name: Chennai - Mangaluru SF Mail
Regional Name: சென்னை - மங்களூர் அதிவிரைவு மெயில் / ಚೆನೈ - ಮಂಗಳೂರು ಸೂಪರ್ ಫಾಸ್ಟ್ ಮೇಲ್
Hindi Name: चेन्नई - मंगलुरू सुपरफास्ट मेल

1 posts - Aug 2017

10 posts - Fri Dec 22, 2017

Dec 22 2017 (02:42)
HOG WAM4 WAP1~   3228 blog posts
Re# 2373195-12            Tags   Past Edits
Obsession with a particular train and constructive criticism of the operating zone over that is acceptable. Indeed all of us have our own favorite trains that have a special place in our hearts. But continuous bashing and pointless name-calling without understanding the reasons and problems of the zone, is unacceptable and IMO, is of absolutely no value.
I agree with your frustration with the SWR bashers, but spare a thought for the mail as well. The poor train has been chugging on between MAS and SBC for 150 years now, operated through 2 world wars when several trains and routes bit the dust, and is taking one for the team, to ensure KK runs on time.
Don't let the words of a few, puny mortals tarnish the invaluable service rendered by this train. :)
Don't punish the train for what its 'fans' are doing. :(

Dec 22 2017 (10:44)
YPR Belagavi train should run daily~   2728 blog posts   823 correct pred (70% accurate)
Re# 2373195-13            Tags   Past Edits
Maga, I travelled in both SBC Mail & RC, but the RC's maintenance is just incomparable to Mail. I feel its just that all those people have never travelled in RC.

Dec 22 2017 (10:55)
YPR Belagavi train should run daily~   2728 blog posts   823 correct pred (70% accurate)
Re# 2373195-14            Tags   Past Edits
RC's Sleeper Class had extra accessories to reach Upper berth also, which till now I have never seen in any train of IR. Unfortunately I could not take pics on my trip as my phone got spoilt :(
Also towels were present in 3A bed rolls which is generally rare. Without demanding from the AC coach attendent, one doesn't get towel, but here in RC every bed roll packet had it.

Jan 15 2018 (18:53)
HOG WAM4 WAP1~   3228 blog posts
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A small change to your list sir (possibly). As you'd probably remember, in the links I shared with you earlier, there was a day time train too between MAS-Beypore (later Mangalore) since 1862 (As you can see in this extract from 1879). Earlier, I was of the opinion that this was the predecessor of the present day Intercity (Lalbagh's RSA partner). As I mentioned in my earlier post regarding the Bangalore mail being introduced as a separate service in 1908, the ICE was also started in 1908. At the time, I assumed that the daytime train was discontinued or changed into some random passenger train that gradually vanished.
I had the chance to dig through some old
Bradshaws and documents, and I see that the day time train from 1862 was still operational even after the ICE was introduced, but running as a passenger instead of an express. You can see this in the 1931 Bradshaw as the 706 Passenger from Mangalore to Madras, which ran combined with the 15 Bangalore-Madras passenger between JTJ-MAS. The same train, with slight changes in timings is continuously present in all the timetables since then, running between Banglaore-Madras as the 95/96 passenger at least since 1977 (the portion to Mangalore having been discontinued at some point). This train was operational even in 1999 with the same train number. Today, this train is running as the SBC-AJJ passenger ( having been short terminated at AJJ sometime after 2000).
So, both sisters have been continuously serving the route for the past 155 years. while one retained some part of it's grandeur by still running as a mail train, and being upgraded as a super-fast, it's sister train, once the faster of the two, and the original mail carrier on the route (In the initial years, night carriage of mails was not allowed. It was only allowed some time between 1864-1868) lives on silently as a nondescript passenger, running between different destinations.

Jan 16 2018 (11:37)
KJM WDM 3A Twins*^~   10200 blog posts   497 correct pred (74% accurate)
Re# 2373195-16            Tags   Past Edits
Wow , an amazing research. Hats off to your research sir

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