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Blog Entry# 2653349
Posted: Nov 10 2017 (21:31)

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Nov 10 2017 (21:31)   16513/KSR Bengaluru - Karwar Express (Via Kunigal) | SBC/KSR Bengaluru City Junction (Bangalore) (10 PFs)
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Entry# 2653349            Tags   Past Edits
I think SBC Depot will have Extra Shunting Activity to Reshuffle Rakes Position to keep it running in uniform Pattern.
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Nov 23 2017 (16:00)
Arun   1967 blog posts
Re# 2653349-18              
Proposed and they (passenger association) say accepted by SWR and now waiting for KR, so asked about this from him, his opinion.
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Nov 23 2017 (18:17)
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Re# 2653349-19              
Good Proposal.
Few Advantages -
1)The Shuffling/Shunting rake activity which i mentioned above is not needed then.
2) Early arrival at destination may result in more takers.
But then there are few doubts -
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1) In article it is stated as 16513 will be made to depart MAQ at 6:20, but as per Current TT, it's arrival itself at MAQ is 6:20, So departure must be either 6:40 or SWR (Slack) & SR (Constraints) both should agree for early arrival at MAQ (6:00).
2) If SWR/SR both agree for 6:00 arrival @ MAQ, then it may get hold at MAQ Outer for 56640 MAO Passenger.
3) The Present slot of 16513 between MAQ - KAWR is based on 11098 Poorna weekly slot (which trails behind 56640 MAO Passenger all the way upto MAO), So if early departure it should either Overtake 56640 Passenger in KR or trail behind 56640 Passenger, which will make it late equivalent to current TT.
4) Lastly, Doubt on both SR & KR, Even if it departs early from MAQ, it may get hold up at MAJN (SR) or in KR Stations for crossing south bound trains, making no change in TT afterwards.
Example: 16515 departure from MAJN was advanced by 30 mins, but barring First stop of KR, Surathkal (Advanced by 12 mins), there is no change in TT afterwards. SR holds 16515 till 12432 Raj arrival at MAJN, making 16515 depart most times at 18:00 (Actual 17:30).

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Nov 23 2017 (18:26)
Arun   1967 blog posts
Re# 2653349-20               Past Edits
This is just about early arrival at KUDA, how "Shuffling/Shunting" is not needed, that happens at SBC.
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Re# 2653349-21               Past Edits
With same Rake configuration of 16517/23 departing as 16511/13 from SBC; while arriving at MAQ the CC will be like this LOCO+16511+16513. So due to reversal @MAQ, 16513 should depart first, But as per current TT published, Kannur portion departs first (6:40) & then Karwar Portion (7:00). So either rake shuffling is needed at SBC or shunting at MAQ, KAWR portion should be detached & sent early or shunted to another PF, to make way for CAN Portion. So in this News article, it may actual mean KAWR portion will depart first, then CAN portion. Anyway 16511 has to wait, as there are two trains originating from MAQ towards Kannur side at that time.
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Re# 2653349-22              
its almost approved by all, may be in one week updated tt will come
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