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12372/Bikaner - Howrah Weekly SF Express (Via Lucknow)
बीकानेर - हावड़ा साप्ताहिक सुपरफास्ट एक्सप्रेस (वाया लखनऊ)

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Dec 26 2016 (17:14)   12372/Bikaner - Howrah Weekly SF Express (Via Lucknow)
SpeedManiac~
SpeedManiac~   544 blog posts
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I travelled recently in this train between DLI to GAYA, class 2A [pls search for Trip # 100497 for further details] and here are my reviews about it, in the primary lines of speed, Punctuality, Safety, Railfanning and Cleanliness:-
Speed:-
Between JSM to MGS the train does an average speed of approximately 85 to 90 km/h with the upper limit increasing by 10 to 15 km/h. The MGS WDM3A does a wonderful job of hauling the 23 coach beauty, so no complaints whatsoever, however the real fun starts post MGS, when
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the wappie is at the helm of affairs, with the average speed notching well above 100 km/h, so speed is never a downside of the train.
Punctuality:-
In this department, the train I believe is a victim of some weird orders of the railway management. I am yet not been able to decipher as to why the train leaves at a delay of approx 30 min to an hour at source (JSM). Furthermore this delay continues and only aggravates down the line. Arrival at Delhi is a good 1hr 50 min delay and so on, which only worsens. At SBB, the train is made to stand at a loop line and give way to all east bound Rajdhanii's and proceed. This so called "insult" was a bit tough for me to digest!! I don't know why, but that's me!! So, yes punctuality will be a concern. In case you are planning to travel by this train, plan with a delay of atleast 6 hours in case you are heading post MGS (I did it for my part)
Safety:-
The gentry travelling in this train (atleast in class 2A, if nothing else) was decent enough, with a majority being inhabitants of either the state of Bihar or Rajasthan, this would be my personal thinking, I may be wrong though, please do let me know. However, since the rake belongs to the HWH yard the entire staff was bengali, which was a very nice to know.
Railfanning:-
This is surely one area where this train outshines or I could say eclipses some of its weak-points of punctuality. I could see the stations of BSB, KEI and above all, the massive rail bridge of the Ganges, just outside KEI, however between BSB and KEI the train while passing through the city passes over some planks of bridges without any thing to its sides, which is sometimes, pretty scary, (yes I am a bit scared of heights, so you can laugh at me!!) However overall the train is an absolute treat for rail lovers like myself, wherein I could see the actual loco change happening, the bridge over the river ganges etc.
Cleanliness:-
I would say that the train had pretty nice amount of clean AC 2A coaches, (not as clean as the Punjab mail), but they were decent.
Final Verdict:-
The final verdict for choosing this train would on a single factor:
Timing or The Journey itself.
If you want to reach your destination almost AS FAST AS POSSIBLE without a damn for anything else, then STAY AWAY from this train, as the train is usually delayed heavily.
or
If you want to reach your destination quickly however also want to enjoy the journey in itself, having a look of the en-route stations, then this train can be an option just after Poorva or Kalka.

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Dec 26 2016 (17:34)
IndianTrainFanonTwitter~
IndianTrainFanonTwitter~   10340 blog posts
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Wow, so you wrote a summarized trip report as a tip. How was the quality of food served in this train ? I was wondering if this train is a good option to the Kalka Mail for traveling to Ghaziabad/Delhi from Howrah or not. It's good to see that the diesel performs a good speedy task between Mughalsarai and Delhi via Sultanpur - Lucknow just like the Wappie on the Grand Chord Route. I hope that it doesn't have to face overtakes by many Duronto and Rajdhani trains while traveling from KOAA to DLI/GZB :)
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NR should now start track renewal work on the Mughalsarai - Varanasi - Sultanpur - Lucknow - Moradabad - Hapur - New Delhi Route to increase its MPS from 100-105 Kmph to 130-140 Kmph :)

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Dec 26 2016 (17:52)
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SpeedManiac~   544 blog posts
Re# 2105786-2              
Sir,
At the outset please accept my humble thanks to the time you actually took out to read my "Trip Summary"!!...Now coming to your thoughts:-
#1. Good Alternate to the Kalka Mail from Howrah to DLI.
Like I said before, it all depends on what is your priority; fast access to Delhi or an enjoyable journey to Delhi. If it is the
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former, my answer would be a looud NO. In case it is the latter, I would say, Maybe.
Why I said Maybe and not a "Yes" would be the fact that the route of the train is pretty lengthy when compared to that of the Kalka Mail, so I would ask you here, are you willing to travel a bit more via, KEI-BSB-LKO-BE-MB-DLI + 3hrs and 50 mins of delay??
Your answer should clarify your choice. As for me, I would love it, however, with family I would not prefer it. In fact my wife, is against me travelling in trains, she prefer air travel, rather than rail travel, and I also have had a massive altercation with her on this. The settlement is know that she will travel with mom on air, and let me travel via train only one side, and she is hell bent on me taking return route via air.
Now you can just realise my plight, a rail lover travelling by air!! :(
I hope I have been of some help.
MPS increase on NDLS-HPR-MB-LKO-BSB-MGS route
Yes, in fact I was wondering, if Mahamana exp is having a WAP5 loco link then why the trains are not having the same links. Many thanks that you actually answered a part of my query. My second thought was that any time line by which we can enjoy the P5 speeds over this route??
Once again many thanks for reviewing and going through.

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Dec 26 2016 (18:08)
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IndianTrainFanonTwitter~   10340 blog posts
Re# 2105786-3              
Jaideep Ji, it's my pleasure. I am ready for a travel to Delhi/Ghaziabad from Howrah by this train with my Family if it reaches at Delhi NCR in summers on time or late by a maximum of 1 to 1.5 Hours. Since it doesn't have a Pantry Car then its obvious that we would carry home cooked food along with us just like we did in Durgiana Express. I am curious to see the MB-HPU-GZB Route :)
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Dec 26 2016 (18:12)
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SpeedManiac~   544 blog posts
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arre, sir simply fundoo!! Even me also curious for the same.....HPU-MB-BE route, as many trains will impacted on this one, especially the 12436/12236 Raj. Lets see what happens!!
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Dec 28 2016 (16:45)
Dj.Railfan1982~
Dj.Railfan1982~   4047 blog posts
Re# 2105786-5              
The "Gentleman" Who Planned The Schedule For This Train Should Be Privileged With "NOBLE PRIZE". This Train Passes Through The Dessert Corridor [ JU-JSM] In Darkness In Either Way.... Also Reaching JSM At Midnight [ Even If Reaches On Time] Is Weird. For Me It's Clear. If Someday I'm Traveling To JSM From Calcutta, I Will Rather Take A Flight To Delhi And Then Board MALANI Exp Which Serves My Cause
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Dec 29 2016 (10:41)
SpeedManiac~
SpeedManiac~   544 blog posts
Re# 2105786-6              
Dipanjan sir, I believe, the train was primarily targeted to ease the traffic load on primary east line from Kolkata to Delhi and vice versa and the extension from DLI to JSM, looks like an after thought to me (atleast this is clear from the time table), meaning this wasn't planned previously but railways went ahead with this extension much later, something like in the case of Avadh Assam Express from DLI to LGH. But yes the gentleman seriously deserves a noble prize for sure for the schedule planned.
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Dec 30 2016 (11:22)
Dj.Railfan1982~
Dj.Railfan1982~   4047 blog posts
Re# 2105786-7              
No. This Train Was Declared As HWH-JSM Exp Only
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Dec 30 2016 (12:24)
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SaurabhDubey^~   30109 blog posts
Re# 2105786-8              
This is best train for dli- jsm and runs like a beast. I am praying for past 2-3 budgets that its frequency be increased so that I can visit jsm in broad daylight en route, but its not happening
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Dec 30 2016 (12:28)
SaurabhDubey^~
SaurabhDubey^~   30109 blog posts
Re# 2105786-9              
If you really plan to visit desert section en rail route then opt for dee- bkn exp at 23.30 at dee , stay there one day and next day hop on lalgarh - jsm exp at 7.00 am reaching jsm in after noon at 1.30 in broad sun shine
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Dec 30 2016 (12:38)
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RatnagiriSFexpress~   5828 blog posts
Re# 2105786-10              
but iss train ko via sultanpur se chalna chahiye with electric loco
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