"which train is having 1 A from VSKP to Delhi ?"
How many trains have scope of getting a 1A?
"Is WL and figures matter, then as per RTI and even SCR;s own figures, then its wavering from 50-80 berths of AC classes all included. So, Then BZA definitely doesnt need a train until you file another RTI to see if demand increased or not."
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more... me to quota a message from my dear friend, Vamsee Teja, which explains you why AC Express from BZA is better than AC Express from VSKP.
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You are taking only those quota seats into consideration and are assuming this is the demand from BZA, which is absolutely wrong. Do you have any idea about the no. of passengers who book tickets from MAS or any station which is having GN quota for a particular train and change the boarding point to BZA?
Let us look at some statistics to look at some prospects of demand.
As per 2011 statistics
Urban Agglomeration population of Vijayawada: 14,91,202
Urban Agglomeration population of Guntur*: 10,28,667
Population of Tenali*: 1,64,649
Total population: 26,84,518 ~~27 Lakhs.
As of 2015 there could a rise in population in these cities consider it to be around 5 Lakhs.
Approximated Population: 27 Lakhs + 5 Lakhs = 32 Lakhs
*Included because distance is less than 40 kms and people won't mind travelling it, usually takes an hour.
Vishakapatnam metropolitan area population: 20,91,811. Lets assume it as 26 Lakhs as in 2015.
Can anyone deny to run a train from Vijayawada to Delhi for now least bothered about its route?
Other than these, Vijayawada is one of the biggest and busiest junction of Indian Railways, so there is good chance for passengers who hasn't got a confirmed ticket to go to there respective destination to think about a connecting train from this station.
Starting a train from BZA doesn't mean that passengers from other cities towns are not allowed to board it. No one will throw stones at passengers who comes from vishakapatnam or any city to board train. Everyone are welcome to board it from BZA and other places till destination giving no scope for regionalism.
It's unfair to snatch from a person who had got his new fruit for the first time after 10 years.
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"Slow poke is due to VSKP or ECoR or by me, its your own Rail Zone buddy. Check out BZA NDLS AC Ex. Its pathetic. Why didnt you stage up this kinda show then?"
Had it been a BZA-NDLS AC Express, it would have been a Rajdhani in future. There are many empty premium slots from BZA, and its easier to change the slot. And what do you mean by "stage up a show"? Do you think I deliberately started this discussion? And if I would have deliberately started, I would have received objections to get this archived, but see the number of people agreeing with my view.
"DD is running empty and you want to cancel it, right? What have you done to get it cancel? Will SCR guys(you know the list) will support if VSKP says let it be VSKP TPTY/SC DD then ? Never na? you bring stats of some other trains."
I'm not concerned about someone here, but as far as I'm concerned, I always want a premium class day time connectivity between SC-VSKP via BZA with heavy average. You can check my imaginary trains, I've already chalked out two schedules (up and down).
"Check out for Cocanada WL figures and still runs it. They can add another AC or Gautami or some other but they are running a full train. Why hurry dude, just wait for the season to pick up. If it doesnt perform well, I will join you in terminating @ BZA itself."
As far as 22415 is concerned, I'm not hurrying. When you do not have demand for the existing trains, why start a new train? Gowthami is running with 24 coaches and is likely to become the first 26 coacher in Indian Railways owing to its demand. People prefer a WL ticket in Gowthami over a confirm ticket in Cocanada. Although numbers show high availability in Cocanada, I've seen Cocanada go with handful of last moment passengers. By the way, as IR is starting a concept of providing alternate accommodation, Cocanada will take the load of Gowthami, at least in future.
Can you show me the demand of Gowthami in Link/Samata/SJ? SCR introduced AC Express trains like Cocanada only because the first preferred train is overflowing.
"RL or PQWL is not the concern, The total demand stands the same. And if its disaster from VSKP to NDLS, then forget BZA, even CBN also cant help to get patronage. Clear?"
You never know how a person is booking a ticket. As I've already quoted message written by my friend Vamsee Teja few paragraphs above, you can get answer for this point in that paragraph.
"If this is not Rajdhani, then AP - Amravathi has clear chances of getting another Rajdhani kinda train. If this is given to only BZA, who else can demand a Rajdhani?"
Why do you want a train from VSKP when there is no demand at all? Why not put one from BZA and make it Rajdhani in future?
"Rajdhanis are invented in ages old where only capitals are crowded. with the crowd Ameerpet is having, they can start Ameerpet (Nature Cure Hosp) - Vizag train also. Come out of concepts. They arent working."
If you come out of concepts, the result is a slowpoke train, just like 22109 and 22415. We had a nice concept of Duronto, which was not properly utilized. Every concept does work, only if you implement it perfectly. If you start a Duronto Express between two places which has good end to end passengers, it will click. But If you start a Duronto between two places where trains are full just because less quota, then it will not click.
"YPR GR TT will change, I know the new TT also but why was it changed ? What were you doing then ? Did you raise your voice just the way you raised for Diverted trains in IRFCA ? Pradyu meeda EDavaDam kaadu, lOkam chooDu."
YPR GR TT was changed because of increase in frequency of other trains. And in that route, asking for a better overnight slot was not possible. By the way, I'm unsure if the train will be punctual with the new timetable. BTW, if there is one person whom I give respect among the VSKP RFs, then it is you.
"Drnt are non stops commercially and enjoy high prestige. BBS BNC Prem rocks and much better than hwh ypr Drnt. So tomo, you cant ask for a similar train from VSKP to SBC in same way. They are a different league."
Premiums enjoy the Duronto style preference, while making the timetable or while they are in the move.
"SHM SC express is just a piece of morsel SCR for SER to run a LHB during Didi period and hence it runs. If HWH - HYD can get a AC Express, why cant VSKP NDLS AC Express."
SHM-SC may be a train started in ministerial whim, but it helps many last moment passengers who get heavy WL in Falaknuma/East Coast.
"There is only 1 proper daily irritating train and thats Link. SJ and Samatha are running and will run due to consistent demand. Pls dont bring that train which runs to Amritsar now."
Samata's availability
Thu-Aug 13 RAC 26 Avbl 5 Avbl 7 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 15 GNWL# 28 / RAC86 WL# 13 WL# 8 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 16 RAC51 / RAC 49 RAC10 RAC 11 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 18 Avbl 107 RAC 12 RAC 1 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 19 Avbl 156 Avbl 54 Avbl 16 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 20 Avbl 135 Avbl 76 Avbl 16 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 22 RAC 41 GNWL# 27 / WL# 6 RAC10 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 23 Avbl 112 GNWL# 17 / WL# 14 Avbl 11 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 25 Avbl 161 Avbl 31 Avbl 3 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 26 Avbl 101 Avbl 62 Avbl 17 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 27 Avbl 25 Avbl 20 Avbl 28 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 29 Avbl 66 Avbl 42 Avbl 32 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 30 RAC 20 RAC 13 RAC2 / RAC 2 0m old Refresh
Tue-Sep 01 Avbl 170 Avbl 80 Avbl 19 0m old Refresh
Wed-Sep 02 Avbl 131 Avbl 63 Avbl 1 0m old Refresh
Thu-Sep 03 Avbl 91 Avbl 49 Avbl 4 0m old Refresh
Sat-Sep 05 Avbl 94 Avbl 62 Avbl 18 0m old Refresh
Sun-Sep 06 Avbl 132 Avbl 46 Avbl 34 0m old Refresh
Tue-Sep 08 Avbl 99 Avbl 112 Avbl 42 0m old
Swarna Jayanti's availability:
Fri-Aug 14 RAC 9 Avbl 30 Avbl 13 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 Avbl 2 Avbl 4 Avbl 18 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 Avbl 69 Avbl 44 Avbl 14 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 24 Avbl 115 Avbl 57 Avbl 7 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 28 Avbl 43 Avbl 65 Avbl 11 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 31 RAC 54 RAC11 / RAC 9 RAC6 / RAC 4 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 04 Avbl 102 Avbl 73 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Mon-Sep 07 Avbl 85 Avbl 107 Avbl 21 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 11 Avbl 199 Avbl 103 Avbl 7 0m old Refresh
Mon-Sep 14 Avbl 229 Avbl 126 Avbl 41 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 18 Avbl 120 Avbl 97 Avbl 9 0m old
Link's availability:
Wed-Aug 12 GNWL# 42 / WL# 5 GNWL# 14 / WL# 7 RAC1 / RAC 1 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 13 GNWL# 14 / WL# 3 GNWL# 15 / WL# 4 GNWL# 2 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 14 GNWL# 51 / WL# 30 GNWL# 18 / WL# 4 GNWL# 7 / WL# 2 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 15 GNWL# 19 / WL# 7 GNWL# 15 / WL# 9 RAC2 / RAC 1 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 16 GNWL# 6 / RAC21 GNWL# 13 / WL# 5 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 RAC11 / RAC 9 GNWL# 7 / WL# 3 Avbl 3 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 18 RAC9 / RAC 7 GNWL# 3 / RAC6 Avbl 11 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 19 GNWL# 22 / WL# 11 GNWL# 7 / WL# 4 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 20 Avbl 6 GNWL# 5 / WL# 1 Avbl 10 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 RAC7 / RAC 4 WL# 7 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 22 RAC8 / RAC 6 WL# 8 RAC2 / RAC 2 0m old
If link is made to run as a separate 16 coach train, then I don't see any WLs in Link (Daily connectivity). If SJ and Samta are made to run as a 24 coach trains, I don't see any WLs, however we may expect few RACs on certain days.
Do you still need a separate AC Express, when you could have improvised the existing services?
"Its not having contacts and even if we have contacts, all patriots spurge up asking for proofs. Our members are capable of asking Haribabu for proofs in press conference."
I don't know what you are referring to, but I believe in the information which is out through the appropriate person.
"Which ONT you are speaking from SC to VSKP ? AC express ? Its much slower than Godavari and GR.
Check from Nagavalli slot and how great SCR handles."
I'm talking about AC Express, and yes its much slower than Godavari and GR. But its only running because a rake is lying empty and there is demand in passengers for a weekend train. Nagawali's slot is like such. 14 hours between VSKP-SC. Whats there to talk about SCR here?
Cheers.