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Blog Entry# 5956239
Posted: Jan 30 (16:53)

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Jan 30 (16:53)   16511/K.S.R. Bengaluru - Kannur Express | CLT/Kozhikode Main (Calicut) (4 PFs)
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Disagree:ആർക്കും ഉപയോഗമില്ല.
Extension of KSR Bengaluru - Kannur Express Upto Kozhikode. Details are as per following 👇🏻👇🏻
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Great
MAQ Coaching Depot belongs to SR and a dedicated connection to the state capital is the least that they should be delivering.

Bangalore will be the destination for the highest number of travelers from the city with 1000s of buses and cars plying between the cities each day.

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sandwiched between three Zones is not the fault of the passengers and instead of blaming rival zones, SR should have taken the onus of floating a train of its own to Bangalore (or beyond).

Not even a MAS-MAQ connection via HAS has ever been on cards for more than 15 years since gauge conversion. Which Zone can we expect to bring the proposal.

NCJ/CAPE are loggerheads with TVC division over the relative lack of facilities in the district or whenever trains like Island/Gurudev/Vivek Exp are proposed but gradually, 12633/34 has come to be supplemented by a fair no. of services.

In case of MAQ, PGT division routinely come up with operational roadblocks (refusing trains into MAQ) and at the Zonal level, SR manages to botch up with decisions like this mindless extension.

If there is a way Padil-MAJN-MAQ line should be separated and handed over to SWR. SR could retain MAJN (which it has not developed beyond a water filling pitstop for trains from the south or short-terminating trains it doesn't want to take) and upto the NMPT siding to maintain contiguity with KR.

PGT division should be alloted the GUV-TCR-SRR section and likewise should withdraw from POY and CNV.

SWR (or KR) wouldn't ensure round-the-clock trains, but they would probably secure for the city's sake, at least one well-patronized dedicated train from SBC.

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As far as zone change or re-allocation is concerned, we all wish as per our logic and convenience. Ultimate authority is RB.Few months ago when RM was in Bangalore, the local reporters also asked him the same questions that they want MAQ as part of SWR. The RM answered that IR looks at development holistically and not on basis of zone, regions and so on. It was a quiet way of stating no more new zones and divisions.

The only hope in future could be eventually if and when
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they decide to merge KR with IR. That might be a good opportunity to make subtle alignment and re-alignment without creating too many issues and protests.

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Feb 05 (11:36)
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Great.
My realignment suggestions are summarized as below:
1. TVC Division: Get TSI QLN 102 Kms from MDU. and Transfee CAPE TEN 89 kms to MDU and TCR SRR to PGT. Net loss 17 kms
2. Salem division: Get Omalur Hosur 147 kms from SWR SBC. Handover Podanur Kinathukadavu 18 kms to Madurai. Net gain 129 kms.
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Palakkad division: Get SRR TCR 30 kms from TVC. Handover Kinathukadavu Pollachi 22 kms to MDU. Handover KNKD MAJN 2 kms to SWR MYS. Handover MAJN Panambur (via Thokur) 18 kms to KR Karwar. Net loss 12 kms.
4. Madurai division: Get POY PTJ 40 kms from SA/ PTJ. Get Cape TEN 89 kms from TVC. Handover TSI QLN to TVC. Net gain 27 kms.
5. Mysore division: KNKD MAJN 2 kms gain.
6. KR Karwar: MAJN PNMB 18 kms gain.
7. Bangalore division: HSRA OML 147 kms loss, but it doesn't matter because SBC division is so huge more than 1000 kms.

Win for CAPE/ NCJ. Win for Mangalore. Win for Pollachi. Win for Pathanamthitta/ Kollam.

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The timeline of Gauge conversion define the current boundaries of SR divisions. Except during the bifurcation of PGT division and the formation of SA division in 2007. PGT division currently even after adding on POY-CNV does not have the requisite 600 km track length.

Almost whole of PGT division areas (Jolarpet-Mangalore, Shoranur-Ernakulam) had BG lines in the 1960s.

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conversion of ERS-QLN MG line and QLN-TVC portion of the VPT-TVC branch line of the MDU division in mid-1970s facilitated the creation of one single BG line across Kerala.

The TVC-CAPE and ERS-ALLP-KYJ lines were planned and added as BG lines. The NCJ-TEN line which was planned in BG instead of MG, enabled the formation of TVC division with MDU division retaining the MG portion (QLN-TSI line).

Most of interior Karnataka (Most of Mysore division) and Tamil Nadu (Most of Trichy and Madurai divisions) were still predominantly MG and Gauge conversion did not commence until the 1990s.

In case of Mangalore, KR was categorically kept outside city limits at Thokur, with undivided SR getting Panambur/NMPT. It may even be allowed to get MAQ CDO but do not see it getting the Mangalore Port.

SR got MAQ uncontested only because HAS-MAQ line was inactive and undergoing gauge conversion when SWR was formed in 2003.

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The UPA government which introduced a flurry of trains squeezed the MAQ CDO launching Maveli (only a weekly when introduced, then tri-weekly and daily), Ernad and CBE Intercity apart from the weeklies and bi-weeklies from other divisions/zones.

During the whole time (06-14) SWR was playing spoilsport for running passenger trains via Sakleshpur citing HMRDC. This paved the way for the resources of MAQ to be made available for Malabar.
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Maveli (becoming a daily) replacing Matsyagandha in the West Coast/Mail/Malabar RSA led to 6347/48 (another TVC train) being extended from CAN.

12685 which was introduced as a tri-weekly became the most patronized train of the route for end to end passengers and got a daily run. Same with 12133 (introduced as a Tri-weekly) which is preferrable ahead of Matsyagandha. But it is a CR train, so SR will not extend it to MAQ with Matsyagandha trailing it.

The NDA government which have tightened up purse strings on new trains in the south, have not helped Mangalore by much. And SR instead of accommodating/guaranteeing whatever little that comes are making it many times worse by extending the overnight SBC connection to CLT.

MAQ has just got 2 more PFs and 1 additional pitline than before. SR must ensure it deploys these resources primarily for trains via Hassan.

Else, MAQ CDO needs to be taken over by SWR by transferring at least the Padil-Kankanadi-MAQ line to SWR. SR would be able to maintain contiguity with KR this way and may eventually have to shift some of the existing trains to MAJN (where there is scope for additional development) or JOKT (which still remains a ghost station).

It would be similar to the arrangement NR and NER have in Varanasi or Bareilly.

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