But neither Thane nor Kalyan is a terminus so how can the trains be started from these stations?
CSTM/LTT-TNA-DIVA-VASAI-ST-BRC-BHUJ can be one
For people of Kalyan they will have to depend of Pune-Bhuj Ahimsa Express...

Hahaha who's turn is next?
AP?... :P

maybe bhopal shatabdi :D

Hahaha Lol... :P :D

Ye train chal rahi hai? RM k saath iska bhi pack-up nahi hua?... :P

Nahi hota hai kisi ke saath..!! Kash mujhe bhi kabhi ek din ka RM bana dete.. fir chahe umra bhar pack-up mai rehna padta :P

Chal rahi hai?? :P
Bhai isse achcha LHB rake nahi dekha maine aaj tak.....Dec 2012 made, neat and clean coaches with crystal clear windows......:D

Agar aap 1 din ka RM ban jaate to shayad GKP-CSTM k beech DD announce kar dete... :P

Double decker with AC Sleeper.....:D

Hmm neat & clean to rahegi hi, But the real condition of the rake can be now judged within 2-3 months,
And anyways Cleanliness is inversely proportional to the Rush... :P

1 sleeper duronto daily GKP to CSTM and GKP to NDLS
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3 daily SF- 1 for gujraat- 1 for sbc via mas- 1 for JAT.
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3 jan shatabdi frm gkp - 1 barauni, 1 kanpur via lko, 1 ALD via BSB.
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Fully electrified double line tracks with mps of 150 in all NER zone :P
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More can be considered on Local people advise and all Dream trains from IRI should be :P

Badhiya hai Ji... :P

On 19th morning saw Uma Bharti arriving by this train at Bhopal...

free me aa gayi hongi:D

Ha ha IR system updation seems to be as slow as this crawler :)

This gets GZB WAP-4 too sometimes. BTW did 11093 and 12167 overtake your train at Khirkiya?

I'm lucky whenever i travel by this train it always gets GZB WAP-7,
11093 and 12141 were rescheduled that day to next morning 4 am, And at Chhanera (usually its either KKN/CAER) our train was overtaken by 12167 and one more train...

Wo wap-7 maine hi bhijwaya tha shayad apko pta nhi :P
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Anyway very beautiful pic dear... Kachuwa hi sahi magar apko ride diya na bas thats enough :D

May be they are arranging WAP-7 because you are travelling :)
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WAP-7 would be very useful for this one for better acceleration since lots of halts are there.

Achcha Dhanyabaad :)
Kachuwa to IR hai abhi tak system update nahi kiya... :P

At other stations its still ok, But NDLS? That's not good...

Hahaha :)
In April end i was anticipating that WAP-7 would haul this train from LTT itself but Alas! its still not happening, Hoping for the earliest DC-AC conversion
Btw acceleration was unmatched something which is not experienced in CR...

Hope for earliest conversion,guess was scheduled for first week of may if i am right why again postponed any idea???

It was scheduled for 5th May, CRS inspection is awaited
CR babus are blaming CRS and CRS babus are blaming CR for the delay, Everything is in place just the inspection and final charge is needed...

thats how they work over there...just shift the blame...no ownership at all :(

Hmm but WR did the conversion with ease and with in deadline and for CR and concerned dept. its being dragged on...

Yes no accountability at all, The conversion should really happen by this weekend as from first week of June monsoon will loom over the city which could probably again hamper the process and even the July TT needs to be designed keeping in mind the reduction of travel time...

I think conversion for WR was only for a small part, If i am not wrong conversion took place from Vile Parle towards BCT side
So cant compare with WR...

i think it was done in stages.........first tracks were DC till BRC....every year they made small targets and converted the distance .unlike CR which converted the huge distances at one stretch.....
from IGP to Titwala in one strech and Pune to Badlapur in one strech.....now slowly CR is taking the WR method

No guess they did in phases did till beyond BSR earlier itself,later BSR -Vileparle also then Vileparle-Churchgate.

CR also have to do it in KYN-LTT only as of now,don't know about fate of KYN-CSTM.

Yes CR did conversion on both NE/SE lines upto Kalyan after which not much progress was seen...

Yes in parts but this process involves transfer of rakes as well, I remember sometime back it was mentioned that the conversion was delayed due to irresponsible attitude of RB/WR in transferring AC-DC rakes to CR (All this plays important part in the progress as well)...

KYN-TNA both slow/fast lines
TNA-LTT 5th/6th lines will be done for now
Rest TNA-CSTM is left and then Transharbour and Harbour to finish the entire Mumbai CR Suburban and to begin a new era...

Ironically, when WR was undergoing conversion, the lack of ac dc rakes from CR slowed progress. Also, i had read that problem of transfer was due to indecision on RB side, not WR side

Bhai , P 7 se poocha kya kab Kalyan aa rahe ho :P

P7 to bahot utsuk hai aane ko, But ye CR ke babu pehle apna kaam to khatm karde :P
Still no announcements of conversion...

The mighty Pushpak... \m/ <3

So what is the tally of coaches now? Along with the coach numbers...

AC Conversion is taking place on 30th April
And this will start after the conversion only, So GZB WAP 5 could be the link for this train...

Its now confirmed Its Raining LHBs in CR :)

Any chance of this trian starting on Maharashtra day along with WAP :)

OMG i have my third yr degree exams............will there be a megablock or something.........even on the day it was test fired...there was a huge ruckus and the aftermath were felt for a few days later........hope it dooesnt happen this time

Yes its raining :D
So the full rake should get assembled at CR by first week of May, Maybe then the services should start soon (most probably as a special)
All this is happening very fast now frankly speaking none would have anticipated such quick progress after announcement on the budget day, Makes it all the more special... :D

It was abandoned area. Hence, I didnt go further to have a full view. The number of coaches I saw, was 4.

That would be too much to ask for :P :D
Maybe we can expect it by mid-May...

Though the date is tentative
30th April is also a weekday so we can also expect the work to be held on a Sat/Sun, Still the final official announcement is not yet released...

This is pretty quick dispatch...May be feel WR third Raj coaches given a slip and sent to CR for this...

Orders would have been placed for this coaches at the same time when there was media release which mentioned that the train is being planned to start by May...

RCF Kapurthala has released many shells towards RBL and this coaches are expected to be the same which got furnished at RBL...

But manufacturing coaches in such a short time is impossible i guess,could be the LHB coaches manufactured earlier itself and dispatched to CR on priority...

No train in CR with SL coaches is in the priority list to get LHB Rake, Still the full rakes of Poorva/Purushottam is not readied from the priority list, So how could a new train from CR seek in? This coaches are very much likely for the LTT-NZM AC Express...

As it is the LHB production is so scarce how can everyone be satisfied? Many trains in CR itself are old/prestigious but CR/RB is in no mood to allot LHB's to any of them,
Plus MAS RAJ is LHB, Duronto is LHB, MAS-SBC DD is LHB
And this train is not just any other AC Express, This is planned to run on Rajdhani Level so the priority here is increased manifolds...

MAS has LHB shatabdi.
Besides, Rajdhani level and all is all things to be said as LTT-KYQ , MAS-HWH and SC-HWH also got Rajdhani LHBs.

But Sir, Mumbai got more LHB Trains. 2 Rajs, 1 Durontos, LTT GKP Exp, LTT NDLS EXP, CSTM HWH Duronto, CSTM ADI Duronto & Shatabdi, CSTM INDB Duronto. But Chennai have less LHB Train Rajdhani, 2 Shatabdis & a Duronto. One Shatabdi was handled by SWR. What you say?

Kerala & Tamil Nadu are having very Less priority for Railway. Not at all considering properly.

Since the running time will be 20 hrs it means an avg. speed of 76 km/hr
LTT-KYQ is just 57 - Last year a SF special was run on same timings with SL and GEN Coaches as well besides the AC Coaches - so there is no difference in this case and this train is also just a Normal SF
SC-HWH again shares its time slot with a weekly SF and is only 57 km/hr so again here also there is no difference between a Normal SF and AC SF
Speed matters much and remember in the budget this LTT-NZM AC Exp got priority ahead of the third Rajdhani between BCT-NDLS, So priority is definitely very high here...

See Pune-NZM Duronto the highly patronized train of Duronto Category, LTT-ALD Duronto another strong performer, LTT-HW, Pune-SC Shatabdi running with those age old coaches which are regularly POH'ed at Matunga and still running, BCT-ADI is not LHB,
So many deserving trains still have not got LHB's, What to say? Situation is even bad here considering the circumstances...

I hope so.
But, They are saying after AC Express, CR might get Rajdhani too. This is said by those people who says LHB can reach CSTM after AC conversion and the bridge height matter that you mentioned is not a big problem and will be solved. Besides I myself saw a bridge common to Parel (CR) and Elphinstone Road (WR), then when WR can pass thier LHBs , why cant CR?
If CSTM will continue it's service and especially of LHBs, then surely, We can expect a Rajdhani for CR.

Who is saying? :)
The chances of Rajdhani is almost Nil now, This train in itself is a Rajdhani but just that 'Tag' is not their,
But again this is already discussed that the Rajdhani 'Tag' itself was not proposed by CR as they did not want to lose out to WR and it worked in CR's favour, Again Rajdhani would have also taken 20 hrs as this is the limit here
I would definitely love to have CSTM Rajdhani, But i dont see it coming...

CSTM ADI is running in LHB Coach only. I saw the video also. Only PUNE NZM duronto running in Normal ICF Livery. Nowadays all new trains got LHB Livery. But Tamil Nadu didn't get any Special train in LHB Coach.

dude, lots of people are opposing the fact which you told. I had so many fights on the same. Besides, RF working in CR itself said me that CR may have rajdhani after this AC Express and this AC Express will be the test to look in how much patronage the train gets and if, it is high enough, it may lead to the birth of CR Rajdhani. Besides, other Railfans too are saying even after annoucement for this AC Express, WR and CR are still in forefront for third Rajdhani of Mumbai.

Looks highly ambitious, An AC Express started as a trial run to gauge the patronage for Rajdhani
In my opinion with working pattern of Rajdhani i.e very few berths for intermediate stations it is best that AC Express is started
Passengers for Bhopal, Jhansi, Gwalior, Agra, Mathura will hardly have any berths for them
End-to-End first preference will always be short route unless the CR Rajdhani does the same in 16-17 hrs which is very much impossible,
WR could still get the 3rd Rajdhani...

I will love if LTT HW also takes 20 hours btwn LTT NDLS. Ofcourse timings will hav to be rescheduled. CR will Thus start capturing market share from WR and will soon be a contender of s Rajdhani :)

Bro LTT-HW and LTT-NZM AC Trains cant come on same level, LTT-NZM is Rajdhani type and HW is just another SF AC Exp hence 20 hrs run for NZM while HW will get speed-ed up definitely but not by that much...

Welcome back bhai......
How was ur Journey?

Thanks, All three were Great
Except for some minor delays nothing was inconveniencing... :)

Bro, hws dis....
Craziest TT after considering RSA with LTT HW....

Crazy indeed :P
Actually MPS of LTT-ET is not much high when compared to the sections of Lalitpur-Tughlakabad-Delhi so even if you give LHB or WAP-7 there will hardly be any effect,
And anyways i think HW will see speedup by max of 20 mins...

Dont keep any hopes, Still the DC-AC conversion has not taken place this train does not looks to be starting within this/next month...

Add to it that rakes are yet to arrive ....

Bro this AC Exp will be introduced with the TAG of "SF" and according to the planned schedule of 20 hrs the avg speed turns out to be 76 which means it would be the KING of SF's from Day One itself :D
And from LTT for Down Departure as per the predicted schedule it will overtake some of the best SF's like Mangala, LTT-GKP LHB, Sachkhand, Karnataka (maybe some more) and many other M/E and passenger trains on the way to NZM...

Yeah.... Hope that it overtakes as many trains possible in its run.... I think, On a few occasions with bit more increase in avg speed, it will cover in 19 hours...
This will be Master Blaster of IR..... breaking all sorts of records..
:D

One of the most awaited train
Best place to witness the high speed action will be NCR/NR, If it is given Rajdhani speed/priority between ET-NZM then travel time can come down by at least 30 mins, Lets see if that happens or not in the subsequent period of time... :)

You have doubt regarding the patronage for this train :P
LTT-KYQ AC Exp is breaking all records (even if it till Patna) and from KYQ also it is doing great with even 11 Coaches of 3AC (more than any Rajdhani)
If NZM AC Exp has commercial halts enroute at BPL/JHS/GWL/AGC/MTJ then this train will definitely beat the WL of Mumbai/AK Rajdhani on its days of run...

for that it needs to reach nzm before bct raj .......say around 08.20- 08.25

i agree with you

Not necessary, That period is also very choc-a-bloc at Delhi
And i can assure you that commuters residing on CR lines are enough to fill the train rest all diverted crowd from the WR Rajdhani's will only be a bonus...

i know that .......just that i was more keen on capitalising on the excess crowd from WR and giving the other 4 kings viz bct raj, ak raj, nzm garibrath, ndls duronto.......a good run for their money

Yes another strong point for this train is people of Pune will also end up making use of this train from Kalyan...

till patna its breaking records for now but see the same once the rainy season starts :p.
I am not having any doubt but still, nothing can be said as for now.

Yes going to bct/bdts/bvi from pune is always a hassle, so would definitely be of great use.Hopefully its frequency will be increased.

Its easy to run the train as tri-weekly with 1 single dedicated rake, Should have been tri-weekly from the start itself
Hopefully by next year it should become tri-weekly...

I suppose it was announced as weekly express, if enough time is available for maintenance both at nzm/ltt then can be tri-weekly otherwise can only be bi-weekly with a single rake.

Yes announced as weekly train, But it can run as tri-weekly and can still have 20+ hrs as maintenance time on one day in a week
Just an example
Mon Dep from LTT 13:30-9:30 arrival at NZM
Tue Dep from NZM 13:30-9:30 arrival at LTT
same chain to be followed on Wed and Fri
And when train arrives on Sunday (or any given day) from NZM at 9:30 then entire day can be utilized for maintenance...

i think it should have been announced tri-weekly...sometimes the logic which is used to run new trains by IR is baffling and illogical

Yes can be done this way but they won't make it more than bi-weekly.
Just see example of nzm-pune duronto
It reaches pune at 7am and departs at 11am so a 4hrs time, so this too could have been made triweekly but its just kept as biweekly.

Yes strange are the working ways of IR, HWH-MAS got biweekly AC Express...

u cannot have maintenance just one day in a week. With this schedule, you need maintenance after every two days. if this was true then BCT Rajdhani and August Kranti combo would have been managed only with four rakes. But they actually need five rakes

I think that 5th rake is just a spare one...

The fifth rake is not spare one, both BCT Raj and AK require five rakes to manage the operations. The maintanc is on daily basis, as when Ak reaches BCT, the rake is given halt for 30 hours and depart as BCT raj as next day. kindly read the RSA link blog of 12951 for detailed understanding.

Happy Journey Bhai... :)

marudhar exp example isnt right .. its one and same train with same source and desti , just diff route ..

Minimum of 1 and 25...
12429 RAJDHANI EXP 12-7-2013 SECUNDERABAD JN H NIZAMUDDIN GENERAL


S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 3A Class -2A
1 18- 7-2013 AVAILABLE 21 AVAILABLE 1
2 19- 7-2013 AVAILABLE 25 AVAILABLE 1