RAILFANNING AT MY HOMETOWN!
It was saturday the 25th of July, when I set off for Kolkata. I reached Dhanbad Junction at 10:00 AM so to click some photographs of Dhanbad Junction. I was aiming for the 12988 Ajmer-Sealdah Superfast and planned to avoid the 13152 JammuTawai-Kolkata Express.
The PRS came to life and announced that both of the train were delayed by over an hour. Still wanting to avoid the 13152 I took a stroll along Platform number 1, and clicked a few snaps.
As it can be seen, it was a beautiful overcast morning, with occassional torrential downpour. The station drenched in the rains looked very fresh and was an eye-soother.
Spotted MGS WAP-4 22509 at DHN today, with Muri-Dhn pax!
Saving non-renewable Fossil Fuels like Diesel should be IR's top most priority!
Running Diesel train, especially the 'Jurassic aged' ALCO's on fully electrified tracks makes no sense!
The HWH-BPL Weekly can easily run upto DHN/BRKA with a electric locomotive and then change over to Diesel!
Similar case can be said of the RNC-DMKA intercity! The Diesel loco can be attached at DHN/JSME!
The DHN-BBS GR, instead of a VSKP- ALCO doing the hauling duties, an electric loco can easily haul this train from DHN-ROU, and then Diesel from ROU-BBS!
Why is IR not taking this steps already is surprising, considering the fact that Diesel is
1> A diesel loco burns a whole lot fuel while hauling than while idling! I completely disagree with your point that a diesel loco can't be a issue, when the train is traveling over such a long distance with a ALCO,don't ignore the return is done with the same locomotive . If Shaktipunj can get over a loco change BRKA, then what is the problem with this train????
2> For RNC-DUMK intercity, I understood that availability of D/E-Locos at JSME is an issue, hence the changeover pont was proposed at DHN! The LC at JSME would take a whole longer than a simple LR, hence the LC can be done at DHN. Atleast the half-journey can be covered in E-Loco. That saves a lot of fossil fuel.
It is not like DHN
Ur point feel like:
Diesel is fossil & Electricity is free!!
Thermal too get it thru Coal Burn & other non-renewable source of energy..
Shaktipunj daily..while to adjust Loco for weekly train remains issue
U mean dual time wastage instead of single..DHN & JSME!! & who said LC gonna take less time then LR (Attach n detach? SBC Raj via Dhone takes less time in changeover @ SC as compared to via RC (Dhone: LC with Rake reverse..RC: LC with no rake reverse)!!
As told..electricity isn't free & IR pays it @ premium level..An idle E-Loco remains dead while D-Loco even if idle, keeps on
Sir, I never mentioned as electicity being free......now did I?
Electricity is generated by thermal as a well as hydel means. 70% by thermal and 30% by hydel and other means. Beside the generation of electricity by renewable resources like Wind & Solar, though now miniscule, but are increasing at a very steadfast pace.......Nuclear power stations are also available.......You talk of Coal, with present usage rates coal reserves will still last 200 years! Electricity is nowwhere the problem. Your excuse that, because IR has a premium rate to pay-off for the electricity it consumes, they are free to run diesel locos on electrified tracks is totally illogical!
Petroleum reserves are already much scarce, about 30 years worth are left,and add this to the fact there are other uses to petrol and diesel
3.6 vs 5 litre: Even idle..its consuming 3.6 Litres..hw mch Unit Electric idle loco consumes?? 0
Thats wht i told!!
Further, u need to account:
1. Energy lost while producing thermal Electricity..into heat/radiation along with Combustion energy lost..Isnt Coal also fossil?? What about Diesel run thermal plants??
2. India as a whole is Electricity deprived..We hav Electricity deficit against required & then IR utilize major chunk out of that deficit share!! To make over, DG set runs across India for home/office needs!! Isnt that adds to fossil wastage??
3. More IR Electrification means more wastage via Thermal & Local DG set!!
Sir that is precisely the point that I am trying to make, Diesel should be saved wherever possible!
Coal though a fossil fuel is still in much more amount than Diesel, and so isn't in as much danger of being completely exhausted...unlike diesel!
3.6 l per hour vs 5km/l during a normal run, a normal run usually means 60 kms, so that adds fuel consumption of 300 litres normally.
That is a whole lot of difference.
No: roughly 84 Litres extra!! cz 3.6 was already getting wasted!!
Cost wise..IR intake Diesel is cheap while Elec is Premium...for that 60 Odd Kms..can u tell hw mch Electric run cost would b?? Cz u need to keep awaiting E-Loco live (nt dead) & for same 60 Kms...hw mch??
Coal are abundant & diesel scarce & so we shld start burning more of coal?? What a logic!! Fossil funda gt screwed..even if Coal means more pollution & more energy loss!!
And wht about power scarcity, whch lead people/corporate depend on DG Set whch burns diesel??
IR is more equipped to deploy the most feasible Loco option, then us, with all Permutation/Combination!!
That 3.6 is used while idling, not during normal running!
Again you misinterpret my response, I said of reducing diesel use, but did I ever mention of using up off more coal?????
I already mentioned of increasing up use of renewable resources to generate electricity, you even forgot that Hydel generates substantial power as well..............
Coal may mean more power loss, but pollution is more or less the same in either petroleum or coal................
Regarding the permutation & Combinations, and the math of locomotive allocation, ofcourse it's totally an IR decision, and IR's going that way:-/blog/post/1621079
Whn 3.6 is wasted as in idle...it gonna get waste as it is even if its running...exact loss remain 1.4 ltr..y u computing it @ 5??
"Coal isnt endangered to get exhausted" Ur reply for Thermal usage..the outcome of ur satire simply depicts let coal get burnt in thermal instead of diesel in Loco!!
"Coal means more power loss"..so for same amount of Electric outcome, Coal gonna lead more power loss & hence more burning & more pollution!! N interestingly,,u endorsing the same!!
Dunno wht u gonna highlight thru that news post??
Vskp wdm3a ready to depart bhubaneswar with 12832 bbs dhn garib rath
puri gya tha , wha se sambalpur intercity se bbs aaya aur bbs to hwh 12864 ypr hwh se
This train runs tri-weekly via Ranchi.
Isn't it possible to run it the remaining four days via Howrah.
Will connect Asansol-Durgapur belt directly to Bhubaneswar then!
It will necessiate one more rake, but it will be worth it, don't you think!
Fellow railfans, what do you think?#rundhnbbsgrviahwh
I guess majority of the passengers could not rate to the Gr or dd concept.
Better of changing it to a regular sf.
But then again as a sf, track priority will be reduced as well as the number of halts, willbe increased!
Extention upto Asn is definitely possible....
Dgr looks difficult as it is not a terminal station!!!
But I doubt people of asn will prefer to go all the way via dhn-rnc-sbp, when they can simply catch it at adra...
Asn is never short on options, it is simply too well connected!!!
Asn only lacks a proper connectivity to Hyderabad....For that it has to depend on hwh & dhn.
DD can serve better with fully unreseved service & specified timings.
Patronage will also increase if non ac rakes are used.....
Then there will be no difference between BD, CF & DD. I'm talking abt CC as unreserved.
In it's last days......the Dhn-Hwh DD was made full UR, I mean you you could buy a seat on the DD, as you buy unreserved train tickets.
The train still remained empty..........
Just a proposal. Why don't this garib rath be extended to VSKP via KUR,BAM,VZM. Yes it would be bit circular route. 227 km excess as compared to 13351 crawler. But people never get confirmed ticket in 13351 as its the only train from dhanbad.
This train presently takes 16.15hr , but if speeded up a bit i.e made to arrive BBS within 15.30 hrs, plus BBS to VSKP, further 6.30 hrs, then total journey from DHN to VSKP would be nearly 22hrs which is equal to 13351. But people will definetly opt for this train instead of 13351, all thanks to good departure timings from DHN.
Good proposal, but will it be implemented???
VSKP and ECoR don't have the best of relationships!!!
Hahaha..that's right. ECoR is not so of good mood over VSKP division. But still for the benefit of this train and reduce the loss endured by vacant seats, ECoR should ponder over this extension.
Thumbs Up to your proposal!
This train is unexpectedly used by a lot of people who are heading from hyderabad to ranchi, bokaro... They take Indigo flight and reach bbs at 6.50 pm and then catch this train.. This way it becomes the fastest connect to ranchi from hyd...
already from dhanbad to HYD trains are running via NGP
u cant get tickets easily in darbhanga express ....hyb to hwh via ngp will be faster and will give places like raigagh , tata , jharsuguda etc a very fast connectivity to hyd...also hyb to hwh connectivity if one sees falaknuma runs packed all year round ...
This train is mainly for travellers from bbs to rourkela ranchi and itsfuther exte nded to dhabad for further connectivity and overnight travel.it should be left as itis.IR should itroduce another train from dhanbad to Hyd/ypr for the benefit of travllers from this region
Pics from 12260 Exp on 1 st August.....in the midst of heavy railfall.
This train can be extended in both side. Upto VSKP & ASN.
Early morning I went to him and asked him .. what you have to give me ?? he replied wait for few minutes I have something special. then I said OK and waited sleeping near him.. and he gave me one of my best rail faning session... pictures will come slowly ..;-). moral if u love anything deeply it will return u only love..let it be living or non loving.
crossed the bridge ..was with full speed 65+ .
;-) :-* thanx niket bhaiya.
It had to give you a VSKP deemer :D nice shot :)
Why this train runs with diesel power between ROU-DHN where ALLP-DHN EXP gets WAM4 between ROU-DHN?
Doesn't this train gets WAM 4 /WAP 4/7 between ROU-DHN having loco change in ROU????