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12383⇒12385/Howrah-Dhanbad AC Double Decker Express
हावड़ा-धनबाद डबल डेकर वातानुकूलित एक्सप्रेस

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Bedroll/Linen: Don't know change
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Sat Oct 01, 2011
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Rating: 4.2/5 (18 votes)
cleanliness - excellent (3)
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Dec 20 2018 (16:43)   12249/Howrah - Anand Vihar Terminal Yuva Express (PT) | JOX/Janai Road (5 PFs)
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SAPTARSHI^~   26396 blog posts
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🔘NOTICE FOR ALL BLOCK (P.WAY,TRD,etc) OVER Howrah Barddhaman Chord HBC line & ACC Link (upto HWH division)
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🔸Traffic block for opening of UTCL siding at Janai Road.Consequent Diversion via-Bandel/Cancellation plans & schedules.
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May 10 2015 (14:17)   12583/Lucknow Jn. - Anand Vihar Terminal AC Double Decker Express
 
PrakharYadav^~
PrakharYadav^~   12688 blog posts
Entry# 1462922            Tags   Past Edits
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...THE AC DOUBLE DECKER...
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Indian Railways launched much hyped a new category of trains i.e. "AC Double Decker" on various routes in 2011 during Ms. Mamta Banerjee rail ministry
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WR Ahmedabad -...
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Mumbai Central Double Decker Express
WCR Bhopal – Indore Double Decker Express [RSA]
SR Chennai - Bangalore Double Decker Express
SCR Guntur - Kacheguda Double Decker Express [RSA] [to be DEFUNCT]
ECR Habibganj - Indore Junction Double Decker Express [RSA]
ER Howrah – Dhanbad Double Decker Express [DEFUNCT]
NWR Jaipur - Delhi Sarai Rohilla Double Decker Express
SCR Kacheguda - Tirupati Double Decker Express [RSA] [to be DEFUNCT]
NER Lucknow - Anand Vihar Double Decker Express
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Of these many couldn't b a success probably due to :-
*Less Leg Room (Legs seems to be crushed)
*Width of seats is less (fat people cant travel comfortably)
*Luggage Problem
*Lack of PC on longer routes/ journey (AC pax dont prefer to get down to buy RAIL NEER/soft drinks etc )
*(Inputs welcomed)
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Not to forget
*heavy investment and manpower in R&D
*RDSO trials and certificate
*CRS trails
*curve issues
*pf manipulation
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The POINT is dont run DDs for d sake of running tag "DOUBLE DECKER" in the country.
its a waste exercise if its not ran in conducive way or optimum utilized.
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But v hav witnessed certain DDs which r successful such as JP-DEE, ADI-BCT, MAS-SBC, LJN-ANVT but lets us clear that dese have become successful dont bcoz of DOUBLE DECKER concept but bcoz of route demanding a AC train. not to forget JP-DEE has 2 shat EC coaches.
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another point
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consider newly inaugurated LJN-ANVT DD which has 10 CC
so lets compare
10x120=1200 seats
15*78=1170 seats
What m trying to say is a icf shat can b easily ran with 15coaches carrying almost same no. of passengers
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there r HBJ - INDB -BPL - INDB - HBJ DD which jst hav 3 coaches whereas it was said DD wud clear rush
what a joke !
instead of above DD, a simple ICE consisting of GEN, 2S, CC would do boon for passengers
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Therefore, I wud suggest to run ICF shats without catering charges on wherever routes required.
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Now dese existing DD sud b ran only on existing shat routes only.
I have heard manufacturing of DD has been stopped.
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Last but not d least, some positive scope.
DDs wud b a assest where it can replace 24coacher or max coaches train with same comfort and everything....
(Courtesy: ABhishek SIngh)
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Feedbacks plz !
(inputs also welcomed)
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Jun 19 2018 (16:04)   22666/Coimbatore - KSR Bengaluru UDAY Express
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Which one looks better, UDAY or Double Decker?
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UDAY looks better
27%
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Double Decker looks better
57%
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Both are equally beautiful
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Both are equally ugly
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Can't say
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Mar 30 2013 (22:23)   12385/Howrah-Dhanbad AC Double Decker Express | OYR/Waria (4 PFs)
 
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1) Double Decker at Waria
2) Waria Station Board
3) LP and ALP inspecting the HWH WAP-7 locomotive to figure out what's wrong with her!
4) MPS of the Pure LHB Double Decker Coaches
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Yeah..! There it is! I can spot the #bug
6) Double Decker LHB Coach made by RCF, Kapurthala.
7) Plug Point
8) Staircase (Note the LED Indicators)
9) For guys having the Window Seat shall have hell of a tough time fixing his/her right feet.
10) RCF Logo.
11) Hot Chamber Case.
12) "Main Chalii Main Chalii, Dekho Pyaar Kii Galii
Koii Roke Na Mujhe, Main Chalii Main Chalii"
This's perhaps what the LP of HWH WAP-7 must presume his counterpart LP of the JHS WAG-5B to be thinking about him.
Refer: /blog/post/708918
13) Sign Board/Name Plate.
14) And this's a wonderful gift for the Railfans. Perfect way to do Railfanning.
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Thank You
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nice captures...
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Blog Entry Unlocked.
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May 02 2020 (20:45)   12385/Howrah-Dhanbad AC Double Decker Express | HWH/Howrah Junction (23 PFs)
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◾Dhanbad Double Decker - Operational Constraints◾
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The Dhanbad Double Decker Express was stopped just within 5 years of its service. People have a lot of anticipation for this train, some want it to restart on same route, some want it to run towards Siliguri. There are many limitations for this train, rake as well as path. Lets see-
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proposed as High-speed connection to Dhanbad, and was expected to run just ahead of Kolkata Rajdhani Exp in both directions.
• The rake is supposed to be a prototype.
• When the rake first arrived from Kapurthala, scratch marks were seen all over the body which was when railway understood their mistake. This mistake was rectified in other rakes where coaches were made less wide.
• The platform edges had to be immediately trimmed a little at several stations. A detailed report from press is supposed to be available in the link ➡️ click here
• This rake was suitable for 130Kmph operations, but became restricted to 110Kmph because of wider body & oscillation matters.
• The roof of the rake once touched overhead wires at Howrah yard in busy time, disrupting the traffic.
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◾ Special instructions for operation of 12385/6 Dhanbad Double Decker Express ◾
(as per CRS)
• The train was generally NOT allowed to run through DN HBC line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN Slow lines (BWN-STN-BWN) as the platforms have 'reverse curve' (representative image of 'reverse curve' on DN HBC PF of MDSE stn attached). If was run through above lines, it had to maintain Speed Restriction of 15kmph at every platform line!
• The train SHOULD ONLY run through Rajdhani lines, i.e UP & Reverse line (in HWH SKG stretch), UP/DN Fast lines (in SKG-STN stretch), UP/DN GC lines (STN-DHN)
• The train had Permanent Speed Restrictions of 15Kmph at the following places over Rajdhani line (platform number indicated in brackets) -
≠In UP direction - Howrah (8,9,13), Bally (5), Saktigarh (1), Galsi (2), Asansol (4), Sitarampur (1), Barakar (1), Kumardubi (1)
≠In DN direction - Kalubathan (2), Asansol (5), Raniganj (3), Barddhaman (5), Belur (4), Liluah (4), Howrah (8,9,13)
• Hence, the slot & schedule was prepared to depart the train in afternoon from Howrah, and a morning departure from Dhanbad, just ahead of Rajdhani Express (reference attached)
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◾How things became worse?◾
• Things were more or less fine,train was getting some passengers, suddenly the slot was changed. The train on previous slot, was colliding with slots of other trains in DN direction & platform availability was becoming an issue at Howrah, so the train was put on a new slot, to depart Howrah in morning, and Dhanbad in evening arriving Howrah very late at around 23 hours. (the DN locals making it more late at night)
• The train departed just after Poorva in Up direction, so that it doesn't block path of any other train, while it departed in evening from Dhanbad, so that it could use DN Reverse line b/w SKG-DKAE (as the reverse line works as UP line throughout the evening, so a night slot was fine to get the track traffic-free)
• In morning, Ranchi Shatabdi, Black Diamond Exp & Hool Express takes away a good load of Passengers. Similarly in return the passengers ended up at 11PM at night, very inconvenient for many travellers, whereas the Ranchi Shatabdi & Black Diamond was always a more convenient option to Kolkata. The 900 seats of this train could not be filled, so coaches reduced, ultimately the train stopped!
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• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
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See this /train/114210/325/168. I hope it can be tried at least once.
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May 02 2020 (22:54)
Aman~
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Then I think UDAY Express are also not possible in HWH ER Line.
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May 02 2020 (23:28)
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Probably yes
Uday won't run on these route u were mentioned..
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May 03 2020 (09:17)
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Very much agree with you the slot should morning 530 at Dhanbad and evening 1730 from HWH with 5-6 days with no service on sat from HWH and Sun from DND would be great. Operational constraints is biggest hurdle in IR to operate according to traveller requirement.
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May 16 2020 (09:14)
ahm33966~   4374 blog posts
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Better ER must give this rake to SR or SCR. In these zones Double Decker trains have requirements. Whatever TT you give HWH-DHN will not fill the DD train. ER only wasting the rake and spending money by doing POH and then keeping idle. OR use the Double Decker coaches as AC Railway Canteen.
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